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Old 04-04-2018, 09:42 AM   #201
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Nearly indiscernable wouldn't be enough to get me to switch, if I had a choice. If lab meat had a different taste or texture in the slightest it would turn me off completely.
I'm curious to see how close we can get it. I imagine it'll be like eggs or wine where you have people swear they can tell the difference in quality, but few actually can. The fact that we can have something like the Impossible Burger (essentially a very intense veggie burger) implies to me that even in the very early stages of this we can get remarkably close.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:29 AM   #202
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Chickens are a bit of an easier problem though. I buy all my eggs from a family I know that has a bunch of hens that live a great life. Ideally I’d have 2-3 of my own chickens, I’m just not able to yet.
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So of course those female chickens came from a hatchery somewhere. The girl chickens go down one conveyor to a life of egg laying ( be it someone's back yard or a free range farm or a battery farm) and the boy chickens down another to be ground up alive as they are perceived to have no value. Chickens left with their eggs, fertilised or unfertilised, will lay approximately 12 eggs a year. Chickens whose eggs are removed for human consumption will lay about 200+ eggs a year. This depletes the chicken immensely. And of course once they stop laying their value is zero and they are culled.

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I think varieties of smaller pigs would exist as pets, not the currently farmed species though.
You have obviously never rubbed the belly of a 700lb pig and heard it's pleasure!

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So of course those female chickens came from a hatchery somewhere. The girl chickens go down one conveyor to a life of egg laying ( be it someone's back yard or a free range farm or a battery farm) and the boy chickens down another to be ground up alive as they are perceived to have no value. Chickens left with their eggs, fertilised or unfertilised, will lay approximately 12 eggs a year. Chickens whose eggs are removed for human consumption will lay about 200+ eggs a year. This depletes the chicken immensely. And of course once they stop laying their value is zero and they are culled.

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They grind up the wings from boy chickens too?
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:41 AM   #205
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So of course those female chickens came from a hatchery somewhere. The girl chickens go down one conveyor to a life of egg laying ( be it someone's back yard or a free range farm or a battery farm) and the boy chickens down another to be ground up alive as they are perceived to have no value. Chickens left with their eggs, fertilised or unfertilised, will lay approximately 12 eggs a year. Chickens whose eggs are removed for human consumption will lay about 200+ eggs a year. This depletes the chicken immensely. And of course once they stop laying their value is zero and they are culled.

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Old 04-04-2018, 11:20 AM   #206
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You have obviously never rubbed the belly of a 700lb pig and heard it's pleasure!

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I used a dry rub, smoked it and the result was quite a pleasure to eat.
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Animals have no agency, they are animals.
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http://www.americanequestrian.com/pd...mographics.pdf


Horses have vastly higher value as pets/companions/working animals than cows (which are stupid and dangerous and expensive to feed and keep penned), but still were sent to slaughter in the millions once they had no value with mechanization.

Without the beef or dairy industry, the cattle die-off curve would be steeper than for horses (who have recovered to 9 million in the US according to the article above).
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Animals have no agency, they are animals.
Only if your speciest.
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You heard it here first, folks: humans aren't animals.
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