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GioforPM · 01-05-2018, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Crouse was drafted by Florida...and seems to be doing fine.

Stome is scoring well in the AHL... and it's very early so he may pan out yet... I haven't watched him at all, though

Merckley is also lighting up the AHL as a 20yr old... not sure how hay makes him a 'non factor'

You are correct about Crouse, but Arizona grabbed him, and he still is bad.

Strome is a Strome and won't pan out.

Merkley is a non factor compared to other first rounders that year precisely because he hasn't made the NHL, whereas others have.

Lanny_McDonald · 01-05-2018, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

No he's not worse. He's better than Hamilton in practically every facet of the game.

No, he's not. As has been mentioned, OEL is a train wreck in his own zone. He has quite the reputation, but he can't back it up when it comes to playing in his own zone. Arizona fans love him in the offensive zone, but think he's Dennis Wideman bad in the defensive zone. Having watched him a lot, I would be hesitant to trade for him unless you had a Robyn Regher type stay at home to play for him and cover his mistakes. OEL makes TJ Brodie look like stay at home defenseman.

Jiri Hrdina · 01-05-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

You are correct about Crouse, but Arizona grabbed him, and he still is bad.

Strome is a Strome and won't pan out.

Merkley is a non factor compared to other first rounders that year precisely because he hasn't made the NHL, whereas others have.

Lots of guys drafted before and after Merkley haven't made it yet. Still time particularly for a kid who has had injury problems.
He's made the jump from the Dub to the AHL with zero problems. That's a good sign.

TheoFleury · 01-05-2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's a bad stat and he plays for a bad team, but OEL's -33 is pretty incredible. The next worst in the league is -23. The next worst on Arizona is -21.

He is an incredible -58 over his last 121 games. You would think he plays for the 1993 Ottawa Senators. Easily the worst on his team, not sure what it means as he is so hyped. You would think a supposed top Dman would be a rock even on a bad team but it doesn't seem that way in this case.

Erick Estrada · 01-05-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

No he's not worse. He's better than Hamilton in practically every facet of the game.

LOL no he's not. He's one of those defenseman that is at times the worst player on the ice. Just awful at times in his own end. I'm willing to bet if you surveyed GM's in the league more than 3/4 would prefer Hamilton. There's a reason when Treliving picks up the phone most of the time its regarding the availability of Hamilton. He's the most coveted player on the Flames roster.

TheScorpion · 01-05-2018, 01:21 PM

How do you know this, Erick?

Erick Estrada · 01-05-2018, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

How do you know this, Erick?

Know what?

GioforPM · 01-05-2018, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Know what?

That Hamilton is the most inquired about (not that I disagree).

the2bears · 01-05-2018, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by corral

sorry - but he's not creating something from nothing - what he writes is well known information already out there - and it was a ridiculous arrangement. While many here like to think bt fleeced the bruins - that's nonsense - the bruins traded hamilton for reasons we will never know for sure - but i would suspect one reason was d hamilton insisting his brother takes a roster spot - and so the bruins shipped him out for a collection of high draft picks. ...

lol

ForeverFlameFan · 01-05-2018, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

How do you know this, Erick?

I think it was rumored a couple of years ago I believe that Hamilton was on the trading block (when he really wasn't), and a bunch of GMs came calling Treliving asking about Hamilton... I could be wrong, but I do remember something along the lines of that.

Toonage · 01-05-2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I think it was rumored a couple of years ago I believe that Hamilton was on the trading block (when he really wasn't), and a bunch of GMs came calling Treliving asking about Hamilton... I could be wrong, but I do remember something along the lines of that.

2016 draft morning it was a hot topic.

Strange Brew · 01-05-2018, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

That Hamilton is the most inquired about (not that I disagree).

Right after Drew Shore.

browna · 01-05-2018, 09:28 PM

A pending free agent, who has a decent agent who has ties with the Dregers and Mackenzie’s etc, can get the momentum going for their client in the media with a few text messages.

Scott Hannan was the classic case of this years back, an average defenseman with debatable potential, and he got hyped for months until free agency as a guy that so many team should require, and Colorado then paid severely for him that summer 4 y $18m, and that was in 10 years ago $.
Hannan scored 5 goals and was -24 in less than 4 y before the Avalanche traded him.

OEL became a topic really only when, surprise surprise, the Coyotes travelled through Toronto and an eastern swing, and the media shills had a chance to throw his name out there as a “top” free agent that is undervalued and can be pried away from Phx.