The Whoas! of Dougie Hamilton

[ColoradoFlamesFan]

I'm just going by memory, but I recall Pronger was questionable early and traded because of it. Like others have said, give it some time. Hamilton will mature and be very serviceable

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

A post that stupid deserves to be ripped to shreds.

It's embarrassing.

Hamilton was in perfect position and had his man BOXED OUT.

It's not his fault the goalie directed the rebound right into him.

That is exactly where he should be standing in that spot.

Yet buddy has to come in here looking for someone to blame for what was just a bad bounce and bad luck.

That's why we can't have nice things, like 23 year old, 6 foot 5 inch, 40+ point Dmen.

Whos a liability defensively and an albatross of a contract

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Whos a liability defensively and an albatross of a contract

Neither of those things are true, so, I guess you don't have a point.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Whos a liability defensively and an albatross of a contract

The sky is green and the grass is blue
Hey look, I can make stupid stuff up too

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Sorry guys. Hes been amazing and i hope he continues doing exactly what hes doing.

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Neither of those things are true, so, I guess you don't have a point.

Wanting and expecting more out of him is absolutely absurd. That kind of thinking wont win us a cup. He has work to do defensively and offensively has to be a little more consistent. God forbid i say that and everyone on here jumps on whoever says that.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Wanting and expecting more out of him is absolutely absurd. That kind of thinking wont win us a cup. He has work to do defensively and offensively has to be a little more consistent. God forbid i say that and everyone on here jumps on whoever says that.

No, no one jumps on whoever said that Hamilton needs to work on his offensive and defensive game. People jumped on whoever said he is no good, not going to improve and we should trade him.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Wanting and expecting more out of him is absolutely absurd. That kind of thinking wont win us a cup. He has work to do defensively and offensively has to be a little more consistent. God forbid i say that and everyone on here jumps on whoever says that.

It's not "he's a liability with an albatross contract" OR "he's amazing and has nothing to improve on."

There is a huge middle ground. Basically nobody here is denying that he has stuff to learn and room to improve. It's just poorly worded comments and acting indignant that cause people to "jump."

People who complain about the groupthink here aren't the ones with different opinions, it's the ones who present their opinions like a wang and don't understand why everyone didn't pat them on the back and say "HOT take, bud!"

[robaur]

I refuse to post in this thread if people are going to start taking personal shots. CP is supposed to foster a positive environment for all age groups. recently, it's become an embarrassing gong show. no matter what someone's opinion is, they don't deserve to be personally attacked in a public forum. I could care less about what anyone says to me, but just remember you don't know what the age of the poster is that you're ridiculing on the internet and what the impact of your words is going to be on them. this isn't reddit and please don't try to turn it into such a website. good riddance.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by robaur

I refuse to post in this thread if people are going to start taking personal shots. CP is supposed to foster a positive environment for all age groups. recently, it's become an embarrassing gong show. no matter what someone's opinion is, they don't deserve to be personally attacked in a public forum. I could care less about what anyone says to me, but just remember you don't know what the age of the poster is that you're ridiculing on the internet and what the impact of your words is going to be on them. this isn't reddit and please don't try to turn it into such a website. good riddance.

Wait.....was that just a serious "won't somebody please think of the children" post?

[jemjey]

1. Reddit is great.

2. Kids could just go on reddit (or anywhere else on the internet) and be traumatized there.

3. Some people have dumb opinions and deserve to be ridiculed.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It's not "he's a liability with an albatross contract" OR "he's amazing and has nothing to improve on."

There is a huge middle ground. Basically nobody here is denying that he has stuff to learn and room to improve. It's just poorly worded comments and acting indignant that cause people to "jump."

People who complain about the groupthink here aren't the ones with different opinions, it's the ones who present their opinions like a wang and don't understand why everyone didn't pat them on the back and say "HOT take, bud!"

This is exactly what happens here and every forum. You are bang on, and mods I am sure must get frustrated. I know if I was a mod, I am not sure I could control the ban button.

Do people pile on some posters? Yep, but almost always it is exactly as described above - some posters seem to enjoy posting in a way that is intended to ruffle a few feathers, rather than create a good discussion. When they start getting blasted for their 'borderline almost trollish' posts, they play the victim card and accuse CP of having group-think.

If you word your post with the intent to draw a reaction, stop playing the victim card. If you have a differing opinion and would like to actually have a mature discussion, then post accordingly. Don't hide behind the 'just barely on the side of not getting banned so it is fine'. You know what you do, own up to it when you do it.

For instance, I am personally of the opinion that Hartley should have been given one more year. I can state my opinion in one of two ways.

A) I believe Hartley deserved another chance, as he really seemed to help this organization turn the culture around, has helped a lot of young prospects into the NHL, and I can't blame him for the absolute black hole that was the goalie situation last year.

B) Treliving is an idiot and the Flames just made the biggest mistake letting Hartley go. They deserve to lose. Fire a Jack Adams winner for a guy who got fired after 2 seasons. We just got the next Dallas Eakins. I can't believe some of you are defending this move. You guys are idiots for not seeing it and are just agreeing with everything the org says rather than really seeing what is happening.

Guess which option gets me a reaction, and probably just a warning from the mods for the idiot comment (I think..)? Only a super-patient poster would take the time to respond maturely in a discussion with post B. Post B is totally designed to incite a reaction, so when it happens, please just own it. Don't turn around and play the victim card.

(For the record, I do not agree with post B anyways - though I think it was a mistake letting Hartley go, I am open-minded and understand why it happened, and I am eager to see what the changes are in terms of how the Flames play as the season wears on.).

[N-E-B]

We're paying Dennis Wideman $5.5mil to sit in the press box and people are complaining about Hamilton's contract?

Get a clue.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by robaur

I refuse to post in this thread if people are going to start taking personal shots. CP is supposed to foster a positive environment for all age groups. recently, it's become an embarrassing gong show. no matter what someone's opinion is, they don't deserve to be personally attacked in a public forum. I could care less about what anyone says to me, but just remember you don't know what the age of the poster is that you're ridiculing on the internet and what the impact of your words is going to be on them. this isn't reddit and please don't try to turn it into such a website. good riddance.

you haven't been personally attacked maybe learn to back up your opinions so they don't get shredded

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by robaur

I refuse to post in this thread if people are going to start taking personal shots. CP is supposed to foster a positive environment for all age groups. recently, it's become an embarrassing gong show. no matter what someone's opinion is, they don't deserve to be personally attacked in a public forum. I could care less about what anyone says to me, but just remember you don't know what the age of the poster is that you're ridiculing on the internet and what the impact of your words is going to be on them. this isn't reddit and please don't try to turn it into such a website. good riddance.

It's a deal.

BTW "couldn't care less"

[YYC in LAX]

Hate this thread title

[Corral]

With his first period performance against the Hurricanes - this thread deserves more traffic. soft in front of the net (goal against #1) - offside on the PP - out of position on the point on the PP - and passes into the skates. Awesome. Glad he soaks up 10 minutes per period ...

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by Corral

With his first period performance against the Hurricanes - this thread deserves more traffic. soft in front of the net (goal against #1) - offside on the PP - out of position on the point on the PP - and passes into the skates. Awesome. Glad he soaks up 10 minutes per period ...

I'm a fan of Hamilton but he's been pretty bad to start this season. And he's been awful tonight. Watch when he gets the puck, especially on the PP, he plays it like its a grenadre. No patience and just throwing it away or rifling passes waste high. He needs to chill out on the ice just a little bit.

[taco.vidal]

Lol. Hamilton wont get Trouba done the way things are going

[Corral]

Second period against the Hurricanes ... more of the same from Dougie ... opposing player splits the D with him to score ... coughs it up on the PP with a softy.

I decided to watch him closely this game just to figure what others see in him that I don't ... well after tonight I think HE IS ACTUALLY WORSE THAN I THOUGHT.

The guy soaks 30 minutes a night on the blueline ... and he is at best a 3rd pairing Dman at the moment ... ugly.