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Enoch Root · 10-22-2013, 10:11 AM

do you think Wideman has been a problem? because I think he has been fantastic (as an overall body of work)

Flash Walken · 10-22-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

do you think Wideman has been a problem? because I think he has been fantastic (as an overall body of work)

He's great on the powerplay.

Away from the powerplay...not so much.

Enoch Root · 10-22-2013, 10:14 AM

he isn't Larry Robinson that's for sure, but I disagree with you, I think he has been more than decent

Cuz · 10-22-2013, 10:18 AM

With Wideman, I have been quite impressed with his improved defensive play this year, especially with his increased physicality.

the2bears · 10-22-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio

He's not wrong. If you look at NHL players born in 1993, 1994, and 1995 he should be around the middle of that group.

I'm trying to figure out your point here?

Goodlad · 10-22-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by the2bears

I'm trying to figure out your point here?

His point is he thinks Monahan should be sent back to juniors. I'm pretty sure he's running out of arguments now. Agreeing with Lambert should usually be a good indication of a bad argument.

Flames Fan, Ph.D. · 10-22-2013, 10:39 AM

The fan just to the left of the Staples sign is the best on that Brodie goal...

automaton 3 · 10-22-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Itse

Just watched the game, so comment time:

At the same time, Wideman got 29+ minutes, Giordano 28+, and IMO the SH goal against was a direct result of that. That should have been an easy clear for those two guys. The Kings obviously went after our defensemen, and Giordano especially started to look very worn down by the end of the game. Other teams will keep doing the same, as it's an obvious weak spot on our team.

I was thinking the same thing. Gio and Wideman are playing a ton and looked pretty gassed to start that PP.

Not sure if Breen is ready or not, but hopefully he gets into to the lineup soon.

codynw · 10-22-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Makarov

Hudler is playing at another level right now. I'm curious to see how long he can keep it up.

Three best Flames tonight:

1. Hudler
2. Squid
3. Ramo

HM: Backlund, Giordano

This may be a dumb question, but who is Squid?

AC · 10-22-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

This may be a dumb question, but who is Squid?

Cammalleri / Calamari.

codynw · 10-22-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by driveway

Bullcrap. The Flames simply haven't had the opportunity to draft a player like Monahan. Here are all the really notable centres we could conceivably have drafted since 1996. Note that in most cases we would have needed to use our first round pick to grab a guy off this list.

1996 - Briere
1997 - None
1998 - Gomez, Ribero
1999 - None
2000 - None
2001 - Roy, Plekanec
2002 - Alex Steen, Jarret Stoll
2003 - Carter, Parise, Getzlaf, Kessler, Richards, Bergeron
2004 - Dubinsky
2005 - Stastny
2006 - None
2007 - None
2008 - Stepan, Henrique
2009 - O'Reilly, Johanssen
2010 - None
2011 - Boone Jenner
2012 - None

Only in the outlier year of 2003 were there real quality "build your team around" centres available after the Flames picked, and we took Phaneuf that year which is a pretty impossible pick to fault.

Even in the Rico Fata year the guys we missed out on were Gomez and Ribero, neither of whom went anywhere near the Flames' choice.

Passing on Getzlaf was monumentally stupid. He should have gone in the top 5, or at least top 10. Even at the time he was expected to go much higher than he did. I hope drafting Phaneuf, who they traded for a bag of pucks a few years later, was worth missing a franchise player like that.

heep223 · 10-22-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Baertschi going to to the corners in both ends

This. He's actually developing a talent for separating players from the puck, pretty impressive. I only saw him shy away once and that was against 44

heep223 · 10-22-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stemit14

What a great game! Glad to see to see the flames rewarded for all their hard work so far in this road trip. Hopefully Mcgrattan was taking note of carcillo for the next time we play the kings. I imagine he was told by Hartley again to not fight and it's better to get the win... Carcillo will answer to mcgrattan next time for what he did to ramo and hudler. Way to go flames!

Great point....will be watching for this in future games (I think we play the Kings 5 times this year), though I doubt Carcillo will drop the mitts with McGrattan. He's more of the 'weasel' type.

the2bears · 10-22-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

Passing on Getzlaf was monumentally stupid. He should have gone in the top 5, or at least top 10. Even at the time he was expected to go much higher than he did. I hope drafting Phaneuf, who they traded for a bag of pucks a few years later, was worth missing a franchise player like that.

A few other teams passed on him too. Hindsight is easy, isn't it?

codynw · 10-22-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the2bears

A few other teams passed on him too. Hindsight is easy, isn't it?

It is. I'm just bitter thinking about what could have been. He was ranked higher than Phaneuf on central scouting and the Flames didn't have a #1 center at the time so I really don't know why they passed on him.

OH WELL.

dino7c · 10-22-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

Passing on Getzlaf was monumentally stupid. He should have gone in the top 5, or at least top 10. Even at the time he was expected to go much higher than he did. I hope drafting Phaneuf, who they traded for a bag of pucks a few years later, was worth missing a franchise player like that.

lol really

kirant · 10-22-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

Passing on Getzlaf was monumentally stupid. He should have gone in the top 5, or at least top 10. Even at the time he was expected to go much higher than he did. I hope drafting Phaneuf, who they traded for a bag of pucks a few years later, was worth missing a franchise player like that.

Getzlaf was one of the laziest players I can remember on the Hitmen. It was a huge gamble to draft him. Hindsight is 20/20.

stemit14 · 10-22-2013, 11:23 AM

Was very impressed with the powerplay too... Especially entry into the zone. The flames started using the old Detroit system of having a forward circle back to gain speed and then the defenseman drops it back to him in the neutral zone so the other team is already too deep in their zone to adjust to the speed of the forward. The flames used cammalleri and hudler as the forward on this play and they did a good job.

codynw · 10-22-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kirant

Getzlaf was one of the laziest players I can remember on the Hitmen. It was a huge gamble to draft him. Hindsight is 20/20.

Yea, it's very easy to look back now and say they should have drafted Corey Perry, Getzlaf, Bergereon, Howard, Burns, Seabrook.... but Getzlaf at the time of the draft was actually slated to be drafted very high. But I guess teams must have seen some serious flaws in his game if he fell to 18th overall, so whatever.

This is a very pointless discussion though. I'll stop now.

getbak · 10-22-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OzSome

He actually reminds me of young Joe Nieuwendyk. He goes to the net and always following the puck.

In honour of Mike Toth: Sean "I score when I can" Monahan.