Xbox One - Where Microsoft actually listens to consumers

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by ernie

Meh. At the end of the day PS3 is "more powerful" than the 360. I have both. I like both. But I find I use the PS3 for one thing and one thing only...PS3 exclusives. I had no real built in bias for the machines before.

Netflix, Hulu other apps etc on the 360 because the desktop interface is better (IMO) and connectivity is quicker and more stable.

for gaming I just like the 360 controller far more than I have ever liked a PS controller. There is no comparison for me.

For the new Xbox and PS4 I'll tell you the truth and say I'm not excited about either one. Gaming will be comparable (again). But if I had to lean towards one it will be towards Microsoft because, quite frankly, with the new Xbox desktop and Windows 8 I love the vision they are putting together. And yes I'm one of those who really loves Windows 8 and have since I first used it...fast and IMO intuitive and if you want the old style you can have it. Perhaps I'm one of the few who uses the current Xbox very much as a central unit...I stream from my computer to it (I have nothing but lag and buffering issues with the PS3), netflix, hulu etc. And to be honest I think you'll find "hard core gamers" are becoming a minority. The earlier generation of hard core gamers such as myself still consider ourselves "gamers" but the fact is our gaming has changed and has become much more family oriented and inclusive. It is just the way things are so while many in this thread are lambasting Microsoft for it it is the logical business decision.

hardcore gamers may be the minority, I don't disagree with that. At the end of the day though a hardcore gamer will buy 5-10 games a year where as a casual gamer will be 2 or 3. Hardcore gamers are also the ones buying the weekly new arcade game, the ones paying for the overpriced DLC.

Casual gamers have a low attention span, they only buy the s***iest games being made which are 'family' games or the newest CoD recycle.

Consoles make no money from sales, all the money comes from game sales, dlc, peripherals, etc.

Microsoft is trying to do what Nintendo did with the Wii, hit the family demographic, except the only reason why Nintendo could capture that market is because their system was $279.99. 100 million family aren't going to fork over $500 + $5/month for xbox live. They are delusional if they think they can breach that market.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Microsoft and Sony are trying to hit both markets, which is what Nintendo failed to do. Hardcore gamers will buy one or either system while whining about all the features they don't need. Microsoft won't care, they have your money.

Gamers are some of the biggest whiners on the internet.

[PsYcNeT]

I always wonder if there are forums where people compare washing machine brands or something equally banal.

"DUDE WHIRLPOOL HAS STEAM RELEASE AND RUNS 3MW/H CHEAPER"

"YEAH BUT BRO THIS BOSCH CAN KEEP YOUR WHITES WHITER"

"YOU GUYS ARE BOTH IDIOTS, MY KENMORE CLASSIC COST ME HALF AS MUCH AND SPINS AT 200 RPM FASTER, SO I HAVE MORE TIME IN MY DAY"

[Flaming Choy]

Originally Posted by chemgear

I do worry that a good number of these exclusives and IP's are in fact Kinect mini games.

Fair point, I also worry it's a bunch of Barbie Story book adventure games and stuff like that. While probably great for people with kids, that's not for me.

I guess we know 1 is that game from Remedy that they showed and another will be Ryse from Crytek, so only leaves 6 more.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

Hardcore gamers are [...] the ones paying for the overpriced DLC.

Oh really?

In a way, hardcore gamers are more discerning, and thus tougher to sell to.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by Flaming Choy

Fair point, I also worry it's a bunch of Barbie Story book adventure games and stuff like that. While probably great for people with kids, that's not for me.

I guess we know 1 is that game from Remedy that they showed and another will be Ryse from Crytek, so only leaves 6 more.

It's been rumored that Respawn's first game will be an Xbox exclusive. I wouldn't count on a new Halo as the last one only came out a few months ago.

Also, taken from Joystiq:

"We basically set this reveal up so we could show the hardware, announce the name, talk about worldwide launch this year, show EA and Activision on our stage during our announce – which I think was a pretty compelling point to have both – with their biggest franchises in FIFA and Call of Duty," he concluded the topic. "Then we're gonna use E3 to game, game, game."

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by SebC

Oh really?

In a way, hardcore gamers are more discerning, and thus tougher to sell to.

It's funny because people in the PC realm regard console gamers as anything but "hardcore." Disclaimer: Not trying to start something. I play both PC and console games.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by cDnStealth

It's funny because people in the PC realm regard console gamers as anything but "hardcore." Disclaimer: Not trying to start something. I play both PC and console games.

PC master race!

[chemgear]

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/05/2...aming-headsets

the new controller will come equipped with a new, proprietary data port that replaces the chat cable connector found on the current generation, which a trusted source tell us will make the system incompatible with existing gaming headsets, including high-end audio products like those made by Astro Gaming, Turtle Beach, Tritton, and others.

[drPepper1]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/05/2...aming-headsets

the new controller will come equipped with a new, proprietary data port that replaces the chat cable connector found on the current generation, which a trusted source tell us will make the system incompatible with existing gaming headsets, including high-end audio products like those made by Astro Gaming, Turtle Beach, Tritton, and others.

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[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by drPepper1

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fu microsoft

I bet someone develops an adapter.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/05/2...aming-headsets

the new controller will come equipped with a new, proprietary data port that replaces the chat cable connector found on the current generation, which a trusted source tell us will make the system incompatible with existing gaming headsets, including high-end audio products like those made by Astro Gaming, Turtle Beach, Tritton, and others.

Damnit! That also means no more $6 cell phone headsets either I hate proprietary crap.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/05/2...aming-headsets

the new controller will come equipped with a new, proprietary data port that replaces the chat cable connector found on the current generation, which a trusted source tell us will make the system incompatible with existing gaming headsets, including high-end audio products like those made by Astro Gaming, Turtle Beach, Tritton, and others.

LOL, jerk move!

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by cDnStealth

I bet someone develops an adapter.

You sure do seem to be really defensive of the XBox One. Are you a huge XBox fan, or why do you seem to be so pro-MS?

Originally Posted by SebC

LOL, jerk move!

Very Apple-esque

[drPepper1]

My turtle beach has a bluetooth soo from what i've read it should still work on the new xbox.

Also no NHL 14 for the new xboxone or ps4. Think this might be the first time in many years I won't be purchasing nhl.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

You sure do seem to be really defensive of the XBox One. Are you a huge XBox fan, or why do you seem to be so pro-MS?


Very Apple-esque

Not really. I own every console but spend the majority of my gaming time on PC. I think there is a lot of over reaction here and am just trying to be the voice of reason. I'd say that I've been equally critical, pointing out that I wasn't impressed with their conference yesterday and mentioning that MS would have to show me some interesting games to get me to buy their new system. The same goes with the PS4. My PC is more powerful than either the PS4 or the Xbox One so it really does come down to what kind of console exclusive games these systems will launch with.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Very Apple-esque

Agreed.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by chemgear

PC master race!

I don't see PC gamers as a master race. I think we're just more cultured than consolers.

[TorqueDog]

I'll be honest, I don't see the gaming side when I look at the Xbox anymore. That is not to say that it doesn't matter to me, but... I know that both the Xbox One and the PS4 will deliver a stellar gaming experience as they have in the past. No question in my mind.

But what excites me is the potential for the technology built into the new Xbox One product, specifically Kinect.

Example from the last Kinect:
MIT hacks Kinect for a Wearable Map Generator for Firefighters

The new Kinect enables the device to detect details such as heart-rate. The camera can identify individuals from each other. Proper voice commands. Gestures that work within the interface itself. That is incredibly cool. I no longer look at this anymore as "how does this advance the gaming experience" but "how does this advance our potential to use technology", and I'm incredibly excited by how much has been accomplished.

As stated already, I'm sure the gaming experience (regardless of console choice) will be well taken care of. I've been lucky enough to meet some of the people on the Xbox team in my nearly two weeks spent on the Redmond campus... games are not a 'back-burner' issue, gaming still matters. But damn, does it ever push the envelope on tech. The potential for this to be used in other ways is huge.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The NFL and Microsoft, through its next generation Xbox device, are combining to upgrade interactive TV viewing of pro football games in a multiyear agreement announced Tuesday. The next step after that, perhaps as early as 2014, will be bringing technology to the sidelines on tablets.

The deal is worth $400 million over five years for the NFL, according to a person familiar with the agreement. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because financial details have not been made public.

"When you think about the sidelines, what is most important for us is how you make the game of football better, make what the coaches and players do better, using technology but preserving the competition," said Brian Rolapp, chief operating officer of NFL Media. "The challenge is how to bring technology to make it a better experience for them and for the fans.

"You can start with how we communicate with each other, whether it's game officials or coaches. Coaches can look at formations as they develop. We'll look at how do you do the still photos better, get more into real time? Is there a more efficient way to give replay officials a way of doing reviews better through technology?"

That's for the future, albeit the not too distant future.

Fans will get new television viewing innovations including the ability to watch games, Skype video chat with other fans, view statistics, access highlights in real time and gather fantasy information about players and teams — all on a single screen. For those who prefer multiple screens, fans can get an even deeper experience on mobile devices and tablets with SmartGlass technology.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged...190316790.html