Iginla Wants To Remain A Flame

[Nasty]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

No, no he doesn't.

good point

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I'm going to get slammed here, but I hope he does what's best for the team if he likes being a Flame that much.

Take a rental trade for three months with the Bruins or Pens and come right back in July.

He won't come back after something like that, unless he wins the cup. Iginla is a boss. It's time. Press on and win somewhere, its not happening here.

[vilzeh]

Boston or Penguins, I would love to see him in those teams. Bruins jersey would look so good on him! But, why would Penguins want him? Kunitz & Crosby are lighting it up pretty well.

[FakenHaken]

I'm all for getting assets, which reflect the value Iginla has for the Calgary Flames. However, with that being said should that value be completely disappointing Iggy does hold value as a Flame for life.

After listenning to the rumblings of Sven having the lowest confidence problems in his career IE missing the net in a shoot out. Gaudreau, while not a guarantee to make the NHL is showing he could be a pretty darn good top 3-6 forward, but small and likely won't light up the NHL at the start. Likely we finish bottom 5 lets say we get lucky and draft McKinnon. All these prospects are going to need the guidance from an NHL'er who has been there done that. How do you fight through goal scoring droughts? Situational play? What does it take in the summer to stay in the shape Iggy does? What I would hope happens is that we receive a player, good prospect and a first rounder. Should that not be the case Iggy's value is still in his leadership of a guy who has been there and done that for some pretty darn good hockey players coming up. Maybe Hartley or a Tanguay or a Cammy can do that but none of them has done it for as long as Iggy, and likely don't have the stature that an Iggy does either.

[Rudee]

Originally Posted by vilzeh

Boston or Penguins, I would love to see him in those teams. Bruins jersey would look so good on him! But, why would Penguins want him? Kunitz & Crosby are lighting it up pretty well.

Pittsburgh has the hottest number one line. Scoring goals is not their issue. Defense is. They don't need a slow again forward like Iginla.

[Nasty]

Originally Posted by vilzeh

Boston or Penguins, I would love to see him in those teams. Bruins jersey would look so good on him! But, why would Penguins want him? Kunitz & Crosby are lighting it up pretty well.

I heard i believe through Francis that detroit is interested as well

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by FakenHaken

All these prospects are going to need the guidance from an NHL'er who has been there done that. How do you fight through goal scoring droughts? Situational play? What does it take in the summer to stay in the shape Iggy does? What I would hope happens is that we receive a player, good prospect and a first rounder. Should that not be the case Iggy's value is still in his leadership of a guy who has been there and done that for some pretty darn good hockey players coming up.

If Iginla was such a great role model for younger players, you'd think that would have been evident in their play over the last 10 years.

Young players don't need a Jarome Iginla to show them the merits of being in shape. If they haven't figured it out by the time they get to the big show, they probably never will. As for mentoring and leadership, you don't need a star player for that. Who was Iginla's mentor? Dave Lowery.

This notion that Iginla has tremendous value as a mentor for young player is just Flames fans grasping at straws. There's no reason to believe he is anything of the sort, nor that the Flames would be smart to spend $5 mil a year on a fitness coach.

[neo45]

For those of you discussing his value, Dreger said this about Clowe:

"This is a big ticket type of trade; you're talking about a first round draft pick or two seconds, and you're talking about a prospect player, and maybe another component as well just to get the Sharks listening."

Obviously different scenarious, but thought it was worth noting because Clowe is also a UFA, and Iginla is a much better player

[zamler]

Pittsburgh doesn't need Iginla they need Kiprusoff. If Kipper could regain his form playing for the Pens, that could easily be the tipping point that takes them to the finals. Otherwise I don't see the Penguins making much noise in the playoffs.

Kipper to Pitts, get it done Feaster.

[JayFlowmeester]

No, Iggy wants out of Calgary as any good hockey player would with the team and management in disarray. He wants a cup and deserves one more than anybody in the league in my mind.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by FakenHaken

I'm all for getting assets, which reflect the value Iginla has for the Calgary Flames. However, with that being said should that value be completely disappointing Iggy does hold value as a Flame for life.

After listenning to the rumblings of Sven having the lowest confidence problems in his career IE missing the net in a shoot out. Gaudreau, while not a guarantee to make the NHL is showing he could be a pretty darn good top 3-6 forward, but small and likely won't light up the NHL at the start. Likely we finish bottom 5 lets say we get lucky and draft McKinnon. All these prospects are going to need the guidance from an NHL'er who has been there done that. How do you fight through goal scoring droughts? Situational play? What does it take in the summer to stay in the shape Iggy does? What I would hope happens is that we receive a player, good prospect and a first rounder. Should that not be the case Iggy's value is still in his leadership of a guy who has been there and done that for some pretty darn good hockey players coming up. Maybe Hartley or a Tanguay or a Cammy can do that but none of them has done it for as long as Iggy, and likely don't have the stature that an Iggy does either.

In hockey, as in soccer. star players are generally lousy mentors to be frank, which is why they rarely do well as coach's, the guys you want as a mentor are the older grinders who have always had to work on every aspect of their game and never been able to take playing for granted, they are well versed in how to rise above adversity (being benched or demoted, sent back to Abby etc) in a way that the Iginlas and the like have not had to master.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

In hockey, as in soccer. star players are generally lousy mentors to be frank, which is why they rarely do well as coach's, the guys you want as a mentor are the older grinders who have always had to work on every aspect of their game and never been able to take playing for granted, they are well versed in how to rise above adversity (being benched or demoted, sent back to Abby etc) in a way that the Iginlas and the like have not had to master.

Don't ever compare soccer to hockey...unless you're talking about the Canucks.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by neo45

Obviously different scenarious, but thought it was worth noting because Clowe is also a UFA, and Iginla is a much better player

Different team situation though... if you're asking for Clowe then you're asking a team currently in a playoff spot to surrender an asset with no present value compensation attached. A team with a legitimate playoff chance will be more reluctant to surrender a "now" asset then a team without such and thus they would require a higher payout.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by neo45

For those of you discussing his value, Dreger said this about Clowe:

"This is a big ticket type of trade; you're talking about a first round draft pick or two seconds, and you're talking about a prospect player, and maybe another component as well just to get the Sharks listening."

Obviously different scenarious, but thought it was worth noting because Clowe is also a UFA, and Iginla is a much better player

He's only a much better player than Clowe in the memories of Flames fans. GMs won't be fooled.

[Tinordi]

Yeah Clowe probably has more value than Iginla right now for playoff bound teams.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

He's only a much better player than Clowe in the memories of Flames fans. GMs won't be fooled.

Disagree. Iginla is absolutely burnt out and tired of being asked to carry a team. If he goes to a contender, he's going to be absolutely reborn.

[Caged Great]

Clowe has been awful this season. He's basically been a rent a goon for the sharks. If you want someone that can contribute on the scoresheet, then Iginla would be the preferred choice.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Yeah Clowe probably has more value than Iginla right now for playoff bound teams.

No way. That's absurd

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

He's only a much better player than Clowe in the memories of Flames fans. GMs won't be fooled.

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Yeah Clowe probably has more value than Iginla right now for playoff bound teams.

Zero goals in 22 games Ryan Clowe?

[puckluck2]

Lol a guy who hasn't scored a single goal all year in 22 games is now better than Iginla.

Also coming off a torrid 45 point season.

The Iginla hate makes me laugh.