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Old 02-13-2024, 06:44 PM   #20801
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If true this is crazy.
Veznia level goalies in prime form rarely get traded, people will say well miller was traded but everyone knows he was near empty when he was traded.
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Let's hope NJ wins 5-4 in OT their next two games, making it more likely they can make a push but clear they need a goalie.

Obviously dependent on the actual players involved but that return would be very reasonable in my mind for Markstrom
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:45 PM   #20803
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Jersey, Carolina and LA all have players under 23 that could be available and have legitimate upside. I think that it might be less about worrying about a good return, and more about whether markstrom gets moved at all, or his value as a mentor to wolf exceeds what is being offered.

I like Connie's work so far.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:45 PM   #20804
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It was a Roster Player, 1st Rounder (Unsure if it’s 24 or 25), Prospect and additional 2nd for Retention.
Ouch. That would have been quite the hall for Markstrom. Hopefully fitz calms down. I think I have heard of other GMs getting pissy and backing out of deals if you continue to shop player to other teams. Can’t remember who ? Lou?
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Sec, any idea if the deal with NJD is completely dead or if they're just throwing a fit?
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:45 PM   #20806
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So high chance Markstrom gets traded you think?
I would be shocked if he’s here post deadline, I will quit CP insiderrrr if he’s here to start 24/25.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:46 PM   #20807
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You don’t just take whatever is offered. Even if you love the offer, you’re not doing your job if you don’t go out and see if you can do better.

If that hurt New Jersey feelings well maybe they need to make a change. Hurt feelings isn’t how you operate.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:46 PM   #20808
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Calgary has a conditional 1st offer from a Western Conference team for Tanev, I’ve heard Conroy can get that to a first. He has as many as 8 teams interested.
Thanks again Sec. if it’s as many as 8 teams, we can narrow it down to the teams that need goaltending. That could include the following IMO:

Devils
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I doubt the Sens or the Oilers have a real chance of getting him. Flames would likely not want to trade Markstrom to the oilers and I doubt Markstrom would waive to go to the Sens.
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Fitz probably told Conroy, “You pulled that kyt on Alvin, but you’re not going to pull it on me. If you’re not prepared to accept the offer we agreed on right now, you can go f@€# yourself”.
With their sub-par goalie injured they are only hurting themselves, if they are being hard headed. Isn't it possible Conroy just hasn't circled back yet?
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:46 PM   #20810
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Let's hope NJ wins 5-4 in OT their next two games, making it more likely they can make a push but clear they need a goalie.

Obviously dependent on the actual players involved but that return would be very reasonable in my mind for Markstrom
https://twitter.com/user/status/1757232039101616242

This comment probably puts the pressure on too.
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It was a Roster Player, 1st Rounder (Unsure if it’s 24 or 25), Prospect and additional 2nd for Retention.
It’s a shame it didn’t go through, that sounds like a good haul, plus more cap space to weaponize.
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It was a Roster Player, 1st Rounder (Unsure if it’s 24 or 25), Prospect and additional 2nd for Retention.
Thanks.

That sounds like quite a bit, but of course could vary greatly depending on which roster player and prospect.

If it was Mercer and Casey it's a homerun IMO

If it was Seigenthaler and Clarke then that's a big old "meh"

I certainly wouldn't question Craig going back to other suitors if that second return was NJ's best offer.
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With their sub-par goalie injured they are only hurting themselves, if they are being hard headed. Isn't it possible Conroy just hasn't circled back yet?
Hope springs eternal.
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Noah has as many as 4 contenders interested in a deal with extension and one team as a rental (Tampa).
With Tampa involved, it looks like Conroy isn't set on a first, but would consider prospect capital as well. Best option could be Tampa, when the smoke clears, if they drain their entire pool.
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Hopefully this doesn’t affect Markstrom game going forward. Guy had probably already told his family that they were moving to jersey.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:49 PM   #20816
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Thanks again Sec. if it’s as many as 8 teams, we can narrow it down to the teams that need goaltending. That could include the following IMO:

Devils
Kings
Hurricanes
Avalanche
Flyers
Leafs
Senators
Oilers

I doubt the Sens or the Oilers have a real chance of getting him. Flames would likely not want to trade Markstrom to the oilers and I doubt Markstrom would waive to go to the Sens.
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Hopefully this doesn’t affect Markstrom game going forward. Guy had probably already told his family that they were moving to jersey.
Jacob is a wild man, Gladiator mentality. Him against the world and he just wants to WIN.
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Thanks.

That sounds like quite a bit, but of course could vary greatly depending on which roster player and prospect.

If it was Mercer and Casey it's a homerun IMO

If it was Seigenthaler and Clarke then that's a big old "meh"

I certainly wouldn't question Craig going back to other suitors if that second return was NJ's best offer.
I just can’t see conroy calling other teams if mercer was involved.
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Jacob is a wild man, Gladiator mentality. Him against the world and he just wants to WIN.
Screw it. Keep him . Let’s make the playoffs
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:52 PM   #20820
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Veznia level goalies in prime form rarely get traded, people will say well miller was traded but everyone knows he was near empty when he was traded.
Not much of his prime left though.I understand that some goalies can have great careers into thier late 30s and Markstom seems to really take care of himself but still.

Any idea on the caliber of roster player and prospect that was involved ?
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