What is a good answer to that question? I think she replied she supported what Roe v Wade protected, which seems fine.
Any limit is problematic for women and Doctors, but saying there shouldn't be a limit is a problem politically.
Easy answer. It’s not a decision for the government at any level. It’s between a woman and her doctor.
Same point they should hit when trump said he’s moving the decision from the federal government to the states so the people can vote. It’s none of “the people’s” business at any level. Mind your own ####ing business.
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I don't know how anyone could watch that debate and think that they could possibly vote for Trump.
At the same time, I'm not sure why no one is criticizing Harris here. Every time Trump opened his mouth, it was just straight lies, but Harris wasn't too far off. She said some downright stupid and misleading things herself.
The first few minutes of the video shared by Corsi earlier in this thread (I've included below) covers some of the fact checks for both Trump and Harris and the link below takes you to lies from both candidates from last night's debate. Both lied, yes, but Trump lied waaaaay more.
I don't know how anyone could watch that debate and think that they could possibly vote for Trump.
At the same time, I'm not sure why no one is criticizing Harris here. Every time Trump opened his mouth, it was just straight lies, but Harris wasn't too far off. She said some downright stupid and misleading things herself.
Can you list them in chronological order please?
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Basically Kamala said one thing that was deliberately misleading. Trump said dozens of things that were false, some WILDLY false. None of this is surprising to anyone.
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I don't know how anyone could watch that debate and think that they could possibly vote for Trump.
At the same time, I'm not sure why no one is criticizing Harris here. Every time Trump opened his mouth, it was just straight lies, but Harris wasn't too far off. She said some downright stupid and misleading things herself.
Oh, bullsh1t!
Harris may have got a couple of facts wrong, which us understandable and forgivable, but that’s all.
Easy answer. It’s not a decision for the government at any level. It’s between a woman and her doctor.
Same point they should hit when trump said he’s moving the decision from the federal government to the states so the people can vote. It’s none of “the people’s” business at any level. Mind your own ####ing business.
While I agree that is the way it should be. I don't think she can give that answer in a national debate and win the presidency. That gets framed as having an extreme position of allowing abortions up until birth and that's going to cost percentage points in the election that she can't afford.
Our friend last night: “My nine-year-old son watched the debate with me. I didn’t tell him who I support. Afterward he says, ‘I like the lady. The man is mean and angry.‘“
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While I agree that is the way it should be. I don't think she can give that answer in a national debate and win the presidency. That gets framed as having an extreme position of allowing abortions up until birth and that's going to cost percentage points in the election that she can't afford.
Yeah, loses the “I must save you!” religious fanatics, which is just sad.
Our friend last night: “My nine-year-old son watched the debate with me. I didn’t tell him who I support. Afterward he says, ‘I like the lady. The man is mean and angry.‘“
Out of the mouths of babes. - Jordan Peele in Economy Plus.
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I don't know how anyone could watch that debate and think that they could possibly vote for Trump.
At the same time, I'm not sure why no one is criticizing Harris here. Every time Trump opened his mouth, it was just straight lies, but Harris wasn't too far off. She said some downright stupid and misleading things herself.
Our friend last night: “My nine-year-old son watched the debate with me. I didn’t tell him who I support. Afterward he says, ‘I like the lady. The man is mean and angry.‘“
Kiddos usually know best!
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Harris may have got a couple of facts wrong, which us understandable and forgivable, but that’s all.
It's pretty funny how everyone complains about "Team Sports", but then proceed to turn a pretty blind eye to their "team's" issues. Again, I can't conceive of a world where people could actually vote for Trump, but that doesn't excuse Harris' misleading and lying either.
Here are a few examples:
On the border issue, all she talked about was they bill that they put forward late last year, which did get unfairly railroaded by Trump. But they did basically nothing for three straight years, which resulted in a colossal failure at the border, and then only tried to fix it going into an election year. It's actually embarrassing that she tries to defend that issue.
On energy, she said they saw the "largest increase in domestic production because of our approach". This is extremely misleading as they took over during the pandemic when production was at a low due to activity levels and naturally increased after that. In fact, the administration tried to ban leasing on federal lands, which had to get thrown out in court.
She said Donald Trump warned of a "blood bath" if he didn't win the election. Extremely misleading if you look at the actual quote - he's talking about the economy and how if the Democrats win, there will be an economic blood bath.
She said Trump has the largest trade deficit in history. You don't even have to go that far back to see that it was lower than W's trade deficit. Trump's trade deficit was also lower than the first three years of the Biden/Harris administration.
She said Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression, which is false.
She claimed they have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs. This is both false and misleading. They haven't created this many jobs, and also taken out of context when considering the heavy job losses during the pandemic.
She also talked about how terrible Trump's economy was in his term, and the tariffs he put in place. If they ended up being so terrible, why hasn't the Biden administration removed them?
Again, I am in no way trying to defend Trump, his policies, or his behaviour. I think he's deplorable as a human and as a leader. This isn't a good vs. bad debate - I just prefer to hold anyone and everyone accountable and refuse to turn a blind eye just because they are on "my team". Tired of all politicians getting away with their BS.
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Google it yourself? There's dozens of articles like this.
Not sure if anyone will read this post, but they cited 1 half false and 1 false thing in the article by Harris, then the added a couple of true statements by her to make the article seem balanced, and formatted in a way where you could be forgiven for leaving with the impression that they were representing both of them as liars, but they were not.
Half false that Trump has proposed an extra $4000 in taxes for middle class families with his tariff plan. only half false because it depends. (but really this is more of a half truth than a half lie, because of the indirect nature of the tax and the way spending habits will weight on the burden families carry)
False that trump left office with the worst employment rate since the great depression. Reality he presided over the worst employment rate since the great depression, but it had started to recover before he left office.
Her lies are within the realm of political spin. His lies are fantasies and delusions, of a man who always struggled with the need for validation around his own sense of grandeur, but has now also started to lose touch with reality in his old age, and he out did her 20 to 1. So claiming any kind of equivalency is at best disingenuous.
It's pretty funny how everyone complains about "Team Sports", but then proceed to turn a pretty blind eye to their "team's" issues. Again, I can't conceive of a world where people could actually vote for Trump, but that doesn't excuse Harris' misleading and lying either.
Here are a few examples:
On the border issue, all she talked about was they bill that they put forward late last year, which did get unfairly railroaded by Trump. But they did basically nothing for three straight years, which resulted in a colossal failure at the border, and then only tried to fix it going into an election year. It's actually embarrassing that she tries to defend that issue.
On energy, she said they saw the "largest increase in domestic production because of our approach". This is extremely misleading as they took over during the pandemic when production was at a low due to activity levels and naturally increased after that. In fact, the administration tried to ban leasing on federal lands, which had to get thrown out in court.
She said Donald Trump warned of a "blood bath" if he didn't win the election. Extremely misleading if you look at the actual quote - he's talking about the economy and how if the Democrats win, there will be an economic blood bath.
She said Trump has the largest trade deficit in history. You don't even have to go that far back to see that it was lower than W's trade deficit. Trump's trade deficit was also lower than the first three years of the Biden/Harris administration.
She said Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression, which is false.
She claimed they have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs. This is both false and misleading. They haven't created this many jobs, and also taken out of context when considering the heavy job losses during the pandemic.
She also talked about how terrible Trump's economy was in his term, and the tariffs he put in place. If they ended up being so terrible, why hasn't the Biden administration removed them?
Again, I am in no way trying to defend Trump, his policies, or his behaviour. I think he's deplorable as a human and as a leader. This isn't a good vs. bad debate - I just prefer to hold anyone and everyone accountable and refuse to turn a blind eye just because they are on "my team". Tired of all politicians getting away with their BS.
