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Old 03-07-2025, 10:29 AM   #2041
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Apparently our dairy market was discussed during Trudeau’s phone call with Trump earlier in the week, so obviously this is gonna be his new obsession now. What a f’n clown.

We already knew the lumber tariffs were likely coming, but I thought those were supposed to be part of the April 2nd deadline? I just can’t keep track of all this nonsense. What a gong show.
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Old 03-07-2025, 10:31 AM   #2042
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250% on Dairy lol

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/07/busin...ada/index.html
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Old 03-07-2025, 11:03 AM   #2044
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Do we export much dairy to the US?

Edit. Roughly $300M
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Old 03-07-2025, 11:14 AM   #2045
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For example, CBSA's list shows milk has an initial tariff of 7.5 percent (with exemptions again for USMCA signatories) but above a certain quantity that could rise to 241 percent for any exporter. This is still less than the 270 percent claimed in the post.


Trump has referenced the 270 percent tariff on milk for years without context, including in claims he made during his first term at the 2018 G7 summit.
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Yes, to "manage supply" and prevent dumping. Go #### yourself, Fat Donny!
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Trump took a big L this week with tariffs being equated in the public with inflation and not 'making America richer.'

Either it's in his base level narcissism or an intentional trait when doing business where he cannot ever admit being wrong or losing on anything anytime. My guess is he needs to scrap and claw until he can get something that will stick that he can claim victory for.
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Old 03-07-2025, 11:20 AM   #2047
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This is a pretty big conspiracy theory. I mean, I think the Liberals didn't do themselves any favors trying to play the legal game with environmentalists (like giving them their time of day in court and such that was never going to go anywhere), but I don't think you'll find that they were directly funding them from any reputable source.
No, unfortunately it is true.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/artic...ipeline-group/

But this is getting off topic, so back to tariffs….
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Apparently our dairy market was discussed during Trudeau’s phone call with Trump earlier in the week, so obviously this is gonna be his new obsession now. What a f’n clown.

We already knew the lumber tariffs were likely coming, but I thought those were supposed to be part of the April 2nd deadline? I just can’t keep track of all this nonsense. What a gong show.
If we could trade supply management for no tariffs that'd be a huge win. The end of supply management would significantly benefit Canadian consumers and western producers, and gives the Orange babboon something to point to for backing down.

Ending supply management/having more interprovincial free trade are all good policy decisions. If we can get some stuff like that out of this externally manufactured crisis that helps it be a win.
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No, unfortunately it is true.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/artic...ipeline-group/

But this is getting off topic, so back to tariffs….
It’s a misrepresentation to equate not denying the group’s summer job grant with “funding” the group. It’s this type of propaganda that makes me not want to vote conservative.
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No, unfortunately it is true.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/artic...ipeline-group/

But this is getting off topic, so back to tariffs….
OK so now that it’s been clearly established that it’s not true. Do you want to explain your post?

Or let me guess you were fuming because the UCP told you you should be fuming.
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What's annoying is that all it takes is a single member of Congress to force a vote on a joint resolution to rescind the 'emergency' that Trump is alleging under IEEPA to force these tariffs. It would force the Republicans to stand up and be counted as to whether or not they are complicit in the economic pain that this is causing Americans.

Why they still haven't done this, who f-cking knows.
Cause the Democrats are a bunch of cowardly losers?
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I honestly don't understand why we need to buy any dairy products from the US at all. I know we buy a very small amount, but I am hoping that with this inter provincial stuff that we get more access to things like cheese from Quebec.
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If we could trade supply management for no tariffs that'd be a huge win. The end of supply management would significantly benefit Canadian consumers and western producers, and gives the Orange babboon something to point to for backing down.

Ending supply management/having more interprovincial free trade are all good policy decisions. If we can get some stuff like that out of this externally manufactured crisis that helps it be a win.
Without getting into the debate on the pros/cons of dairy supply management I don’t think now is the greatest time to bring that up when despite our provincial government’s best efforts we’re still in the best position we’ve probably ever been in to advance our economic interests with the provinces that will be most affected by it changes to supply management.

Unless you think the price of cheese hypothetically going down is worth more to the country than getting pipelines to east coast built.
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The fun part of all this is that it further exposes the sham excuse (border security) that he is using as justification for these tariffs to avoid congress.
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Without getting into the debate on the pros/cons of dairy supply management I don’t think now is the greatest time to bring that up when despite our provincial government’s best efforts we’re still in the best position we’ve probably ever been in to advance our economic interests with the provinces that will be most affected by it changes to supply management.

Unless you think the price of cheese hypothetically going down is worth more to the country than getting pipelines to east coast built.
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Regardless of future government it will be critical that Canada takes advantage of this new found unity. Its unfortunate that it had to essentially be forced but its definitely an opportunity.

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Old 03-07-2025, 01:23 PM   #2056
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OK so now that it’s been clearly established that it’s not true. Do you want to explain your post?

Or let me guess you were fuming because the UCP told you you should be fuming.
Bad guess. Wrong.
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100%.

Regardless of future government it will be critical that Canada takes advantage of this new found unity. It unfortunate that it had to essentially be forced but its definitely an opportunity.
It's scotch and rye whisky and Mexican beer for me from now on. Power to the proletariat.
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:32 PM   #2058
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Given how protected our dairy market is, I don’t have an issue with tariffs on it. I really don’t understand the need for supply management - although with what’s happened with eggs in the US recently, there’s absolutely no chance supply management is going away any time soon.
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Old 03-07-2025, 01:45 PM   #2059
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What’s the figure for the lumber tariffs? Will the lumber tariffs on april 2 be stacked on trumps new tariffs?


Regarding dairy tariffs, we barely export so not a big deal to me. Although, if Canada really wanted to cause pain, an export tax of a matching 250% for eggs would likely hurt the Americans consumer where it counts. Eggs are expensive as is down there, it’s a great pinch point to apply pressure onto.
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Bad guess. Wrong.
So even though you’ve been proven wrong you don’t want to either admit it or explain why your post was completely incorrect?

I’m just genuinely curious here if you have an argument as to how government job grants should only be assigned based on political lines. Do you really want the government stepping in and politicizing job grants as long as they meet all of the job grant qualifications?

And how exactly do you relate job grants with the government funding anti-oil protests? It’s not even a stretch it’s just factually incorrect.
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