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Old 01-12-2026, 08:17 AM   #20521
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The Canucks should have been rebuilding last year instead of trading the 12th overall pick for a 29 year old.

The Canucks can say the word rebuild after denying it and making win now moves...Flames have actually been living it. Its just hilarious how much praise some of you are giving them for saying basically the same thing Maloney said (despite actions to the contrary) but using the magic word

Trading a 26 year old superstar because he says I won't sign here is not a rebuild move IMO
End of the day the Canucks were just like the Flames and tried to hold onto something that wasn’t there. The flames lost 2 guys who were top 10 in league scoring and replaced them via trade and free agency when they should have rebuilt. It took a playoff miss and a terrible start to the season where none of their free agents outside of Backlund would sign to stay before they started their rebuild.

Is trading away UFA’s who wouldn’t sign here not rebuilding moves? Some have argued here that they are not but we all know the flames are rebuilding. The Canucks were doing everything they could do to show Hughes they were trying to win including trading the 1st from Miller for immediate help. Now that Hughes is out they are rebuilding.

It will be interesting to watch these teams rebuild at the same time to see who has the better result.
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I don’t want to see Rasmus play another game for us. Love the player but if he is going to be traded soon then that’s what we need to do to protect the asset.

Don’t like hearing Vegas still around. They are not a good partner.

Coleman needs to be moved too soon. Then it gives time to lose and Kadri to want out more.
Yeah I don’t understand what they have that we’d be into…unless it’s the 27 and 28 1st round picks, but that’s still well below that rumoured Detroit offering.

Say if that Danielson + 1st was real, I’d then want ‘27 1st + ‘28 1st + an additional 2nd round pick to get close to the Detroit package.
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Old 01-12-2026, 09:17 AM   #20523
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Yeah I don’t understand what they have that we’d be into…unless it’s the 27 and 28 1st round picks, but that’s still well below that rumoured Detroit offering.

Say if that Danielson + 1st was real, I’d then want ‘27 1st + ‘28 1st + an additional 2nd round pick to get close to the Detroit package.
More. Vegas would need to give at least 3 of their 1st round picks to equate Danielson and a 1st.

That doesn't even factor in the negative value that the Flames would get on the 1st we already have.

Anyone but Vegas.
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Old 01-12-2026, 09:22 AM   #20524
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Feels like Vegas is Plan B or Plan C if Rasmus won't extend with a team offering more and/or they can't extract a good price from someone else as a pure rental.
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Old 01-12-2026, 09:38 AM   #20525
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Obviously I know nothing but my feeling from this past June to now is that Rasmus won't handcuff the team and would be willing to be traded anywhere, but he probably doesn't want to sign with anyone until the off season to truly test the UFA waters although in all likelihood he'll just sign with Vegas, which was the team he was willing to sign with last summer.

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You can trade him wherever as a rental, but he'll probably be a Golden Knight come July 1.
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Old 01-12-2026, 09:45 AM   #20526
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what happens if he goes to Detroit as a rental then goes to free agency then decides Detroit wasn't so bad after all then signs there ?
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Old 01-12-2026, 09:51 AM   #20527
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what happens if he goes to Detroit as a rental then goes to free agency then decides Detroit wasn't so bad after all then signs there ?
It means they paid the rental price and got the extension asset. Great for Detroit; less so for us.
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Old 01-12-2026, 09:53 AM   #20528
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So Friedman saying no team has been given permission to talk extension with Rasmus yet but surely Conroy is close to having the best offer in hand. I'm sure he has at least some idea if the player will be willing to engage in talks because he definitely loses some leverage if Andersson turns down the preferred trade partner.

Maybe Andersson will be more open since he is having such a good season and has presumably increased his own value.
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Old 01-12-2026, 09:57 AM   #20529
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So Friedman saying no team has been given permission to talk extension with Rasmus yet but surely Conroy is close to having the best offer in hand. I'm sure he has at least some idea if the player will be willing to engage in talks because he definitely loses some leverage if Andersson turns down the preferred trade partner.

Maybe Andersson will be more open since he is having such a good season and has presumably increased his own value.
I'm sure Andersson is open to talking to teams. But that does not mean he is going to, or has to sign an extension with them.

Anderssson really holds all the power, if we are hoping for a trade with an extension.
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Old 01-12-2026, 10:05 AM   #20530
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Craig's not going to let himself get burned again (Hanifin fiasco) so he's keeping the entire situation under control.
With that said he's very aware of what teams would offer *more* with an extension and what that looks like for Calgary in comparison to the rental price (multiple offers from Detroit for example)

Andersson holds some power, but he's also willing to work with Craig on certain markets.
Andersson has be on record saying he wouldn't be oppose to testing the open market to maximize value, so that perhaps could be some of the delay or discussion points right now. Ultimately his goal remains the same, win a cup here in the next few years.

I do agree (at least from CGY's perspective) that VGK would be a Plan B or C at this point given they don't have the assets other teams are willing to part with.
It's very busy right now for CGY.
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Old 01-12-2026, 10:09 AM   #20531
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Come on Andy; wings are in an upswing and it’s where Swedish legend Lidstrom (among others) played. Please ok an extension!!
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what happens if he goes to Detroit as a rental then goes to free agency then decides Detroit wasn't so bad after all then signs there ?
What happens if a meteor strikes the earth and kills us all.

Who cares, it's out of your control, why worry about it?
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Old 01-12-2026, 10:13 AM   #20533
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What happens if a meteor strikes the earth and kills us all.

Who cares, it's out of your control, why worry about it?
not worried in the slightest just a hypothetical . were all going to die anyway
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Old 01-12-2026, 10:14 AM   #20534
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can always build in conditions on picks around if player resigns or not
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Old 01-12-2026, 10:16 AM   #20535
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can always build in conditions on picks around if player resigns or not
Nope, not anymore. That structure of trade was taken out by the league.
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can always build in conditions on picks around if player resigns or not
You cannot do this anymore
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can always build in conditions on picks around if player resigns or not
Nope. That was taken out a while back.
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As much as fans love having multiple picks 3 years out. The GM will start to realize...he might be gone if this team still looks terrible at that time before he gets a chance to draft that player. If you're going to settle for picks that far out....you need to be getting more of them. That's his biggest mess up in the Hanifan trade. Should have got an extra third for when that pick moved to 2026 at least.
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Old 01-12-2026, 10:20 AM   #20539
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Would Vegas pony up multiple 1sts if we took on Pietrangelo's cap? If Pietrangelo gets better, we can retain half next season and let him go wherever he wants to go.

If not, I do not want to deal with Vegas. No good assets.
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Old 01-12-2026, 10:23 AM   #20540
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what happens if he goes to Detroit as a rental then goes to free agency then decides Detroit wasn't so bad after all then signs there ?
There is no "rental" price anymore. There is a "comes with extension" price and a "you get the negotiation rights" price.

Since Conroy cannot put conditions on the trade around the player signing an extension he has to bake in the value of the negotiation rights and then it is up to the other GM to either get the extension done, trade away the trading rights before the deadline, or let the player walk.

The sign and trade is desirable because it eliminates the risk to the GMs but just because we do not do a sign and trade does not mean the Flames are settling for the rental price. GMCC could extract full value and just pass the risk on to the other GM.
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