2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I don't mind discussing things that haven't happened. I do mind blaming people for things that haven't happened. It gets very tiresome, especially when it takes over a thread like this one for pages and pages.

Thing is it's just a difference of opinion, and honestly that's what this sites about.

This Andersson topic for example, technically from my perspective it did already happen.

Conroy didn't trade Andersson at the 2024 draft - that's past tense and a fact. My opinion is that the trade value at that time would be higher than the trade value now - that's not a fact.

Neither you or I will ever know what the truth is in terms of the value. Based on my perspective it's a mistake by Conroy. Based on your perspective I'm being unfair to Conroy.

There is no "right" answer that you and I will align on there, because we don't have all the data and never will.

In the end I just don't get why you seem to be personally offended by my position on it and have to argue so vehemently against it. It's just my opinion, I'm just one dude, and that really has no impact on anything. Craig Conroy will never know who I am and that I disagree with not trading Andersson earlier when it seemed clear they wouldn't prioritize re-signing him (once again my opinion because it's likely Conroy was more 50/50 about re-signing him at that time than I was).

I'm not even really saying anything that negative against Conroy about it, and I generally am a big supporter of Conroy. I just would have done things differently in this specific circumstance from my perspective, but can also see why he did it this way from his perspective (wanted a bit more stability on the defense for Wolf's rookie season)

To me the discussion is good, what I find lately is it goes way beyond good discussion and people are just constantly attacking things for no reason and taking things personally. There seems to be two factions to this whole team tank vs more team retool thing and everything else just gets dragged into it

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Thing is it's just a difference of opinion, and honestly that's what this sites about.

This Andersson topic for example, technically from my perspective it did already happen.

Conroy didn't trade Andersson at the 2024 draft - that's past tense and a fact. My opinion is that the trade value at that time would be higher than the trade value now - that's not a fact.

Neither you or I will ever know what the truth is in terms of the value. Based on my perspective it's a mistake by Conroy. Based on your perspective I'm being unfair to Conroy.

The thing is, you're blaming Conroy for not doing something that you don't even know whether he could have done. You are comparing two unknowns – the price he could have got for Andersson in 2024, and the price he will get when he eventually trades Andersson in 2026. And you have talked yourself into an opinion that the first price is better than the second, without any real information about either of them.

I don't see any point in assigning blame to anybody because X < Y, when you don't even know what X or Y actually are.

Opinions about counterfactuals are rarely worth arguing about and never worth assigning blame for.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The thing is, you're blaming Conroy for not doing something that you don't even know whether he could have done. You are comparing two unknowns – the price he could have got for Andersson in 2024, and the price he will get when he eventually trades Andersson in 2026.

I don't see any point in assigning blame to anybody because X < Y, when you don't even know what X or Y actually are.

Opinions about counterfactuals are rarely worth arguing about and never worth assigning blame for.

But why does it matter. .

It's my personal feeling that it's a mistake by Conroy. It's my opinion. What does it matter to you that I think it's a mistake by Conroy.

My personal feeling is he could have done it. There was a lot of noise about teams like Buffalo, Detroit, and Ottawa wanted a RH dman at that draft and in the end none were made available.

Realistically we should never criticize any trade return ever. Because we will only ever know X and will never know Y.

We don't know what the alternative return would have been, and we don't know if they could have done anything differently, so we just have to assume that logically that the return that get is the best return they ever could have gotten and there would have never been a better return available, becasue no GM would ever knowingly take a worse return.

Conroy isn't here, and even if he was I don't think he'd care that I think not moving Andersson sooner will end up being a mistake.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Some of the same posters...

If the Flames get poor returns for Ras and others you guys will have a point...but until that happens its just constant whinging for no reason.

If this is a shot at me for creating that Canucks thread, I wasn't praising them for !@#$. !@#$ the Canucks today and forever. It's a hockey forum, and a rival announced they're rebuilding openly - seems conversation worthy.

Just bringing the contrast to how silly it was that the Canucks announced a rebuild, in a Canadian market, meanwhile what we get is the Rebiggle silliness of Maloney (...who shouldn't have talked in the first place).

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If this is a shot at me for creating that Canucks thread, I wasn't praising them for !@#$. !@#$ the Canucks today and forever. It's a hockey forum, and a rival announced they're rebuilding openly - seems conversation worthy.

Just bringing the contrast to how silly it was that the Canucks announced a rebuild, in a Canadian market, meanwhile what we get is the Rebiggle silliness of Maloney (...who shouldn't have talked in the first place).

Yeah I know exactly why you posted it...

maybe watch Allvin's interview on after hours from November though...would make Maloney blush. I also don't think you even listened past the headline for before you posted..."its important to keep veteran players in the lineup to help younger players...and that's how you grow as a team" "Will continue to sign UFAs" ect.

He is still basically saying the same stuff except his goalie he just extended is hurt again and his best player wanted out and refused to sign at 26.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah I know exactly why you posted it...

maybe watch Allvin's interview on after hours from November though...would make Maloney blush

Man, you make a fella blush. You seem to take every opposing view to yours as if we’re somehow trolling you. Definitely not the intention.

You know me, SuperMatt, and others have been far more pro-rebuild than you.
I think you also know we’re hyper-Flames fans as well, and just want to see some sustained, exciting Flames hockey with a chance at winning it all. It’s just a bummer of a run here, and our desperate desire to see the Flames land some young, relevant stars to bolster guys like Wolf and hopefully Parekh. Yeah, I’m enjoying the fact they’re losing this season, because I believe this is the type of suffering fans have to endure in the NHL for a real shot to see a Championship - and I’m still concerned as a fan that if they (management) don’t intervene, we’ll end up with another middle of the pack finish, which is not the most likely/efficient way to do it (yes, it can be done - but it’s not the most likely way). Hell, if we get the drafting opportunity that I hope we do, mix that with our scouts’ ability to find hits later in the draft? That’s how you end up with a Championship quality team.

On the Canucks side, they did what I wish the Flames had done with Tkachuk in pretty much the exact same situation. Flames went the other path, and my goodness did it ever blow up in their (and our) face - but I like many (not all) jumped aboard the Summer of Brad and was excited, and then crushed by the failure and the shenanigans that followed.

[dino7c]

The Canucks should have been rebuilding last year instead of trading the 12th overall pick for a 29 year old.

The Canucks can say the word rebuild after denying it and making win now moves...Flames have actually been living it. Its just hilarious how much praise some of you are giving them for saying basically the same thing Maloney said (despite actions to the contrary) but using the magic word

Trading a 26 year old superstar because he says I won't sign here is not a rebuild move IMO

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

But why does it matter. .

It's my personal feeling that it's a mistake by Conroy. It's my opinion. What does it matter to you that I think it's a mistake by Conroy.

Because you're attacking him, and the organization, for making the same ‘mistake’ twice, when you haven't established that it was a mistake the first time and every indication is that it is not going to happen again.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The Canucks should have been rebuilding last year instead of trading the 12th overall pick for a 29 year old.

The Canucks can say the word rebuild after denying it and making win now moves...Flames have actually been living it. Its just hilarious how much praise some of you are giving them for saying basically the same thing Maloney said (despite actions to the contrary) but using the magic word

Trading a 26 year old superstar because he says I won't sign here is not a rebuild move IMO

Again, not praising the Canucks.

They’ve announced what they announced, what they do from here on out will be the interesting component. They’ve pivoted pretty significantly here because their roster is showing them that what they have isn’t worth continuing on with. Same thing the Flames are doing, but just that the Flames didn’t make ongoing investments beyond the massive one they did in this failed calamity with the Tkachuk return, and yeah - praise to Conroy for not continuing to invest in this current heap of rubbish.

[Flickered Flame]

Listened to 32 thoughts this morning. This is all paraphrased from Friedman.


I've heard this is new. The Flames are getting aggressive to do something, a desire to have it done before the Olympics. There has been an increase in activity. There was a report about Detroit, I don't know. Detroit would want to know what Andersson would want before doing it. There is noise. Also mentions LA and LV.


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[browntrout]

Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

Listened to 32 thoughts this morning. This is all paraphrased from Friedman.


I've heard this is new. The Flames are getting aggressive to do something, a desire to have it done before the Olympics. There has been an increase in activity. There was a report about Detroit, I don't know. Detroit would want to know what Andersson would want before doing it. There is noise. Also mentions LA and LV.


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It does make sense, Detroit has solidified themselves as a likely playoff contender, they have the assets, the desire to make the playoffs after 10 years, that team historically loves European players. They have the cap space, and they really need a defenseman like Andersson as they are thin on the Blueline.

I think at this point CC wants this headache gone so that the organization can focus on the future, if I am guessing the hold up is if Andersson wants to sign in Detroit, or CC doing a quick sweep with other GM,s to see if they can beat that offer

[sureLoss]

Friedman also said he gets the sense no one has been given permission to talk to Andersson about a contract.

On the Detroit talk from social, Friedman said the Red Wings wouldn't do a Hughes trade unless there was extension in place and he thinks the same thing has to be the case for Andersson.


Friedman says he has nothing to add on the Kadri reporting.


On Coleman, he says that Coleman will be happy to stay in Calgary.
There is a lot of interest in Coleman
Teams have told Friedman not to buy into the Montreal talk, that other teams may have an advantage on Coleman (I think what Friedman is saying is that there are other teams that Coleman would prefer to move to before Montreal).

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

Listened to 32 thoughts this morning. This is all paraphrased from Friedman.


I've heard this is new. The Flames are getting aggressive to do something, a desire to have it done before the Olympics. There has been an increase in activity. There was a report about Detroit, I don't know. Detroit would want to know what Andersson would want before doing it. There is noise. Also mentions LA and LV.


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Beat it Vegas. IMO as long as Vegas keeps saying they are interested, Anderson signing an extension with Detroit becomes less and less. Also didn’t Anderson already say he wouldn’t sign in LA? If so it must be a rental price if traded to LA.

[dammage79]

Feels like we've known the Flames and Andersson wanted this taken care before the Olympics for a couple of weeks now, maybe longer.

I suspect they do have a timeline set and theyll make this move for the best return possible before the break.

If Danielson and a 1st is on the table for an extended Andersson, then I don't think the drop off for a rental will be too steep.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If Danielson and a 1st is on the table for an extended Andersson, then I don't think the drop off for a rental will be too steep.

Why?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

Why?

Hot market for the #1 trade target.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Feels like we've known the Flames and Andersson wanted this taken care before the Olympics for a couple of weeks now, maybe longer.

I suspect they do have a timeline set and theyll make this move for the best return possible before the break.

If Danielson and a 1st is on the table for an extended Andersson, then I don't think the drop off for a rental will be too steep.

Why is that?

[ComixZone]

Exciting to see Elliotte reporting Flames wanting to get something done soon with Raz!

The note on Coleman aligns with what we’ve heard on here too, thanks Sec & Royle.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Rental return for Rasmus is fantastic.

The return for an extension is 100% bonus. Either way, I’ll be stoked.

[Roko]

I don’t want to see Rasmus play another game for us. Love the player but if he is going to be traded soon then that’s what we need to do to protect the asset.

Don’t like hearing Vegas still around. They are not a good partner.

Coleman needs to be moved too soon. Then it gives time to lose and Kadri to want out more.