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Old 07-14-2022, 05:50 PM   #2001
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He has NMC and NTCs. But the lack of signing bonus is weird.
Cap Friendly doesn't report any bonuses or any clause for NMC or NTC:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/johnny-gaudreau

So, if Johnny doesn't perform or they need to get rid of him quick, they're not handcuffed. Very interesting. I like to know the reasoning behind Treliving giving Gaudreau that M-NTC and didn't expect him to take full advantage of that or why Tre took that huge gamble when he had the chance to trade Gaudreau after that 99-point season.
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Old 07-14-2022, 05:51 PM   #2002
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Its not so much what we could do with Johnny but we had the chance to unload Tkachuk and do a mini rebuild at the draft but we could not due to Johnny. There were also some other signings we could have planned for earlier had we known.

Or if Johnny had been clear with Philly, we could have worked with them to make space and get assets back.
None of that is on Johnny. The Flames could have put forward their absolute final offer a bit before the draft and told Johnny they could only guarantee it would be on the table until a certain point (which isn't necessarily an ultimatum, but just a sensible line to draw in the sand).

For all we know they did exactly that and just didn't find any other compelling deals to make.

Johnny simply took all the rope that was given to him.
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So the Flyers had a home-town star player lined up as a walk-on, and couldn't figure it out? Sheesh if I was a Flyers fan I'd be livid.
I’m terrified the Flames would hire Chuck Fletcher one day.

Guy is not a good GM.

You knew that you were a preferred destination for Gaudreau, it’s been rumoured and discussed for 8 years.

Instead since they season ended they spent $8.5M on DeAngelo, Braun, and Deslauries.

Even if you don’t want to give up a first with JVR you could have bought him out and saved $2.7M this year.

$2.7M + $8.5 seems like it would have been enough to land Gaudreau
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Old 07-14-2022, 05:57 PM   #2004
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It does sound a lot like his wife is pulling the strings behind the scenes.



Also pretty hilarious the whole situation imo, clearly CBJ wasn't his first choice but he's trying to act as it was.

Radio announcer quote "best day in Columbus Blue Jacket's history yesterday".

One last punch to the gut for a Flames fan. Time the get off the mat. Dust ourselves off and move on. Lesson learned.
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Old 07-14-2022, 05:58 PM   #2005
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Knowing nurses in Calgary, they hate working for the AHS. Many of them quit or burnt out last year. Combine that with an adversarial relationship with Kenney and Covid, the system is in shambles and is a terrible place to be in from what I heard over the last two years. Many nurses I talked to want out of Calgary and the AHS is backfilling them with lower quality outsourcing/contractors which sucks for both patients and those who care. My dad almost died last year because an outsourced floor nurse doing night rounds didn't check his vitals.

The hockey analogy would be that working for the AHS is like playing for the MacT Oilers while your facility is that of the Coyotes.

The other thing to note is that Gaudreau's wife Meredith is trained and licensed in PA and Canada is notorious for making it difficult to transfer medical credentials from other countries. It will be much easier for her to work and build a fulfilling pediatric nursing career in Columbus.
fwiw that's nothing specific to Calgary, or Alberta, or Canada. My wife is a critical care doc here in Seattle and the burnout is real. They have nurse staffing problems due to burnout and resignations.

I don't think the Nationwide angle asa driver of the decision makes much sense.
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Old 07-14-2022, 06:00 PM   #2006
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fwiw that's nothing specific to Calgary, or Alberta, or Canada. My wife is a critical care doc here in Seattle and the burnout is real. They have nurse staffing problems due to burnout and resignations.

I don't think the Nationwide angle asa driver of the decision makes much sense.
The guy at the all-inclusive resort with Gaudreau's mom's bestie basically explained that his wife is not going to pursue her career anymore so yes the Nationwide thing is all out the window most likely and it's just a good destination since she has more family in Columbus.
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I was told she wants to volunteer etc. Honestly this happened believe it or not, it just crazy that the chances of this meeting. I was fine dealing with it since I was at a resort in +34 weather
Meridith..this you?
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So I just ran into Johnny’s moms best friend at a all inclusive in punta cana. ( I know this is my first post but I am a avid reader of the forum on a daily basis). There group asked my group where I was from and I said Calgary. They all responded you must be heart broken with ur hockey team. Then it clicked they are from New Jersey. I was told that his first choice was Philly but they didn’t move the players in order to sign him which we all know. Second was the devils but apparently they were not offering a no movement clause. The reason why he settled on Columbus was his wife has a lot of family there and the whole cbj having a good children hospital. They also told me that she is not planing to work anymore which makes sense lol. It makes worse knowing that. Basically him having a kid and his family being close to him was the decision. I still agree with the vast majority of everyone that has responded, the situation should of been handled better. They also agreed with me as I said that. I did share a typical flames fans opinion. This was gods plan haha.
I don’t believe this is a random person. More likely a Gaudreau family member who’s a lot smarter about PR than JG or his agent…
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Cap Friendly doesn't report any bonuses or any clause for NMC or NTC:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/johnny-gaudreau

So, if Johnny doesn't perform or they need to get rid of him quick, they're not handcuffed. Very interesting. I like to know the reasoning behind Treliving giving Gaudreau that M-NTC and didn't expect him to take full advantage of that or why Tre took that huge gamble when he had the chance to trade Gaudreau after that 99-point season.
Multiple reports have outlined NMC in the first 3 and a 10 team LNTC in the last 4.
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Old 07-14-2022, 06:12 PM   #2012
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I've never been more convinced it was his wife driving this after watching this.

He seems to know next to little about the Blue Jackets, can only name 2 roster players and looks towards his wife constantly. He doesn't even know the name of the kid who gave up his # for him.

Again there's nothing wrong with that and deciding to leave, but to pull that card at the 11th hour is what rubs me the wrong way.

And there's inconsistencies in this vs the presser, he doesn't suggest Columbus was top just that they were on the list.

A touch painful to watch that. Johnny still comes across as a nice guy who you wouldn't think would intentionally have screwed the Flames over. Clearly though, the situation was terribly handled and he really damaged how his fans view him.

The consideration given to the pediatric hospital would make more sense to me if it's for the sake of their kid than it does for the sake of his wife. She's pretty decently far along in the pregnancy isn't she, so maybe they're aware of some possible considerations that would make having access to a quality pediatric hospital that much more important. Who knows? That's 100% speculation, but it would make sense to me.

I thought his comment in the press conference about not going to Columbus for the views was pretty funny though. Seemed like he inadvertently called the place out for not being much to look at.

All in all, it's just amazing how badly he screwed the situation up with the way it was handled. It could have so easily been dealt with better for all parties. I would bet if he'd announced he was going to test free agency at the end of the season he would be a Flyer right now, he would be less hated by fans, he would be making more money, and he wouldn't have burnt bridges. Crazy
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Cap Friendly doesn't report any bonuses or any clause for NMC or NTC:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/johnny-gaudreau

So, if Johnny doesn't perform or they need to get rid of him quick, they're not handcuffed. Very interesting. I like to know the reasoning behind Treliving giving Gaudreau that M-NTC and didn't expect him to take full advantage of that or why Tre took that huge gamble when he had the chance to trade Gaudreau after that 99-point season.
Capfriendly isn't magic - there's been so many signings it'll take a while for them to confirm all the specific details.
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It does sound a lot like his wife is pulling the strings behind the scenes.



Also pretty hilarious the whole situation imo, clearly CBJ wasn't his first choice but he's trying to act as it was.
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I’ve spent time in Ohio professionally. Yes, its a flyover state and politics aside the people are nice. The issue in a corporate capacity is you have 3 major(?) cities in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus but no critical mass of population in any of them. Cleveland and Cincinnati clearly show their early industrialist roots and you see re-purposed factories all over. Columbus felt more modern in many ways….Nice enough city but a lot of nameless high tech industrial parks. When my company was looking at events in Ohio the issue was always where do you host it as the corp population is spread between 3 cities. I mean if I had to live in Ohio I would pick Columbus but it wouldn't be on my personal list of destinations if I was a star UFA. Victoria’s Secret is HQed there so maybe that was a signing factor
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Maybe Johnny thought the wife would eventually say yes to Calgary. There's a lot of times in my relationship, where I just brush off my partner because Im not sure how serious it is.

They just got married. Maybe Johnny and her didn't communicate the situation. She didn't want to stay. Johnny thought she would come around.

They got a great offer. Johnny was sure it would be enough for her to say okay to Calgary. It wasn't. He called Tre and said "thanks but no thanks. Wife doesn't want to be here."

It's an emotional conversation. Johnny cried. Tre cries. And that was it
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I mean, *if* JG's feelings are hurt because someone got angry at him for not honoring his word, then.... boo hoo.
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Radio announcer quote "best day in Columbus Blue Jacket's history yesterday".

One last punch to the gut for a Flames fan. Time the get off the mat. Dust ourselves off and move on. Lesson learned.
It pretty much is the best day Blu Jackets history. Franchise players in their prime almost never just fall to you, especially teams like the Blue Jackets (or Flames). I remember when the Flames signed Bouwmeester and how great it felt to be a team that could lure the premiere guy for once, the Gaudreau signing is even bigger than that.

I hold nothing against the Jackets though. They have had their fair share of hardships.
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