10-21-2025, 03:53 PM
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by MegaErtz
We're on pace for 129 goals all season. Not acceptable.
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We? You got an NHL team in your pocket?
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10-21-2025, 04:23 PM
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#182
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Franchise Player
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Farabee is quickly becoming the most polarizing player on these forums, and I don't think he should be.
What is a good comp for Farabee? I think Frolik makes an excellent comp - great metrics, and so-so production. I would argue Frolik was a bit more productive, but Farabee is only 25, so we will wait on the production comparison. Frolik's deal was 4.3 million a season, and I thought it was great value until his last season. Farabee has three more seasons (including this one) at 5 million, but his percentage of the cap is actually much smaller than Frolik's was.
I get it - for me, Farabee's lack of production is a little frustrating, and there are some prospects on the farm that the Flames' don't have room for. Farabee has been one of the better line drivers on the team, and at the moment, this team seems very full of passengers. I don't really see the point of complaining about Farabee.
You hope that he starts producing at a much high er clip - 20 goals and 30 assists - but I am ok with a more modest level of production IF Farabee continues having strong underlying metrics. If he is Frolik 2.0, but with a little less offence, but a bit more grit, I am good with it. If a team finds him to be an attractive player, I would trade him. I just don't see the need to bench him, reduce his minutes, and especially not give him away.
Players I have higher in my 'complain about' card:
Kadri, Frost, Sharangovich, Zary (though he gets bounced around a lot, so maybe unfair of me to put him here), Weegar had a rough start to the season with boneheaded plays (though he settled down and great again). Andersson has been wildly inconsistent. I can go on. Point is Farabee is fairly low down on that list. I don't see him as a player who has offensive skill, however. I am sure he will produce more obviously, but I don't see him as a 30 goal scorer at any time. He doesn't have a great shot. He is really much like Frolik in that manner, and I am ok with it.
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10-21-2025, 04:37 PM
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#183
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First Line Centre
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Age 25 is peak performance for a player. Not "still in development" age.
If only someone could have taught him to elevate the puck. Perhaps there's still time.
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10-21-2025, 04:41 PM
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#184
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Franchise Player
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It's interesting to look at his goals from his top season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40NaRhEPqig
What stood out to me was how many of this goals were in transition, less off sustained offensive pressure, though the occasional one where he was around the crease banging one in.
The Flames just aren't dangerous in transition. At all.
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10-21-2025, 05:11 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
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Farabee has 18 goals per 82 games for his career and good 2 ways. He is a good NHLer there really isnt much debate.
Also, not all player peak at 25...Flames have had multiple players set career highs in their late 20s or even 30s
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Last edited by dino7c; 10-21-2025 at 05:13 PM.
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10-21-2025, 05:15 PM
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#186
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by SutterBrother
Age 25 is peak performance for a player. Not "still in development" age.
If only someone could have taught him to elevate the puck. Perhaps there's still time.
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Where is this coming from? Because it sure feels like we see a lot of career highs at late 20s/early 30s.
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10-21-2025, 09:41 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Where is this coming from? Because it sure feels like we see a lot of career highs at late 20s/early 30s.
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Years ago there was a study saying hockey players peaked at 26 (not 25). But if anything the sample size was too big - t included guys whose career was done early because they weren’t as good.
The better the player, the longer their prime years are it seems.
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10-21-2025, 09:56 PM
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#188
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I think it varies for each player, and a peak is probably not usually a single season but 2-3 years.
I think it's probably like 25-28 where most players peak and have their career best season.
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10-22-2025, 01:00 AM
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#189
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Farabee is great… as a 3rd liner. Should be no where near the 1st line and expected to finish scoring chances generated by our best play maker.
Am hoping he’s just a place holder until Coleman is traded. Farabee can take his spot and they can try Gridin on the 1st line.
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10-22-2025, 01:22 AM
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#190
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
It's interesting to look at his goals from his top season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40NaRhEPqig
What stood out to me was how many of this goals were in transition, less off sustained offensive pressure, though the occasional one where he was around the crease banging one in.
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This is the one issue I have with Huska. Of the successful coaches he has learned from, Sutter most relies on strong defence and, well, let’s just call it ugly offence
Convincing a 115 pt guy who had a D jumping up as F4 all the time to be a power forward… yeah Huberdeau scored 30 in a heavy role but I’m having my doubts
Seeing Parekh skate from his own zone through everyone, then judging that the best play at the hash marks was to dump/ rim it around .. that was deflating
Say what you will about Hartley collapsing on d but the counterpunch was quick ups and speed. Sarich didn’t like Hartley telling him to move up ice instead of back pass.
That’s the adjustment you want to make, not cramming your offensive guys into a box and overthinking when they need to be creative
A quick strike offence breaks games and wins and it’s not just a skill thing, it’s a philosophy
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10-22-2025, 01:40 AM
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#191
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I think it varies for each player, and a peak is probably not usually a single season but 2-3 years.
I think it's probably like 25-28 where most players peak and have their career best season.
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Kucherov 32
Nate 30
Drai 29
Pasta 29
Marner 28
Top 5 scorers in the NHL last season...Makar is the only one in the top 10 under 28
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10-22-2025, 02:19 AM
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#192
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: England
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Reading members of Team Tank complain about players not scoring is quite a look. I thought you would be thanking them for not putting the puck in the net, this is what they wanted after all.
Regarding Backlund, if you look at his stats over his career, he has always scored more in the second half of the season.
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10-26-2025, 03:17 AM
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#193
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Franchise Player
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