Rasmus Andersson wants to remain a Calgary Flame

[Badgers Nose]

The quote seems like hyperbole to me.

My guess is the leaker (GMBT) is butt hurt that GMCC laughed off the opening offer.

I doubt the door is unequivocally closed. It’s probably going to take even more than we think to pry Ras out of Calgary. Because Calgary is under no pressure to deal him.

These guys are just mouthpieces for the front offices of teams.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'm not against re-signing him.

But not even being open to listening is a mistake.

There should be no untouchables

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Few issues here.

For one, Weegar can play the left side, so it’s not much of an issue. And having Parekh, Mews, and Brzu needed top four minutes is an amazing problem to have. One that realistically we probably won’t have. But it’s a problem pretty easy to solve 3-4 years from now if it is a problem.

Two, he had fitness issues 8+ years ago and has shown zero sign of those issues since. There is literally no reason to even bring it up unless you’re reaching to discredit him.

Three, you can’t have it both ways. Either he can bring back multiple A+ assets or he’s as unimpressive and risky a signing as you say. If someone on a message board can think of all these reasons why he isn’t worth re-signing, you can pretty much guarantee GMs and their teams have a dozen more reasons and the offer for Ras will match. So which is it?

Travis Hamonic was traded for a 1st and 2 2nds after putting up replacement level numbers. He wasn’t much better than years prior but GMs will do stupid things. Like ours did.

[traptor]

Rasmus is by far our best realistic trade chip at the moment.

I'd trade him but just because he's the one piece that I think could bring back a young impact player.

If you can get a young top 6 center for him, then I hope they do it.

I wouldnt trade him for a late 1st and a 2nd though.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by traptor

Rasmus is by far our best realistic trade chip at the moment.

I'd trade him but just because he's the one piece that I think could bring back a young impact player.

If you can get a young top 6 center for him, then I hope they do it.

I wouldnt trade him for a late 1st and a 2nd though.

His cap hit is unbelievable already and we can easily eat half. Right hand D… it’s a perfect storm for maximizing return in a trade.

I’d still probably rather he stay, being a fan… but as a GM whose job it is to manage assets… you have to be looking hard at this.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by traptor

Rasmus is by far our best realistic trade chip at the moment.

I'd trade him but just because he's the one piece that I think could bring back a young impact player.

If you can get a young top 6 center for him, then I hope they do it.

I wouldnt trade him for a late 1st and a 2nd though.

Don't need a 2C, just a 1C. If he's part of the plan toward acquiring a 1C, then go for it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Wonder if this is an Edwards call and not wanting to lose a player like we did with Johnny and Matthew.

Andersson isn’t even close to being on their level. Hopefully they the management want to trade him and convince the upper management.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Wonder if this is an Edwards call and not wanting to lose a player like we did with Johnny and Matthew.

Andersson isn’t even close to being on their level. Hopefully they the management want to trade him and convince the upper management.

Or it could be as simple as Conroy using the media to tell teams they have to convince him to trade Andersson. People take way too much away from these media pieces.

[CroFlames]

You need some vets with leadership to guide the new young core of players. Ras and Weegar should be in the long-term plans, especially if he declares he wants to stay and haves the Oilers and Canucks.

Others like Backlund, Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman should not be part of the long-term plan, whether that is through trade or retirement.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

You need some vets with leadership to guide the new young core of players. Ras and Weegar should be in the long-term plans, especially if he declares he wants to stay and haves the Oilers and Canucks.

Others like Backlund, Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman should not be part of the long-term plan, whether that is through trade or retirement.

The problem is that 2 of the 4 you listed are basically untradeable because of their age and contract length.

1 of Ras and Weegar should be kept, I can swallow that. But not both. And at this stage, Ras has far more value in a trade because of his contract situation.

[shutout]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/606...lers-capitals/

Teams have called the Calgary Flames about the top-four defenseman, and the answer to each team has been the same: There’s no interest in trading him.

Why would they? They’re legitimately in a playoff race in the Western Conference, and Andersson’s contract has another year on it after this season. The Flames plan to try to extend Andersson this summer. There’s no guarantee they can get that done, but for the time being, they’ve got time on their side before crossing that bridge.

Flames general manager Craig Conroy has even talked to Andersson recently to make sure he knows the trade speculation is not real. The Flames want to keep some key veterans around as they continue their retool. They don’t want to tear it down. They see Andersson as one of those key veterans. At least for this season, that’s the plan.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/606...lers-capitals/

This is smart posturing by Craig regardless of the outcome. Sends a message of "dont waste my time with 'fair' offers. Make me an offer I cant refuse or go away"

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I have no problem with Flames stance on this. There’s no benefit to coming out and saying they’re open for business. It’ll kill any enthusiasm in the room.

And if they can’t get an extension done, maybe things change in 6-12 months. Saying we won’t trade him will help keep price high and offers strong.

Seems like a win-win. We re sign a quality player or we trade him for a haul.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

This is smart posturing by Craig regardless of the outcome. Sends a message of "dont waste my time with 'fair' offers. Make me an offer I cant refuse or go away"

Fully agree. Conroy is managing a hockey team, not fans feelings. Managers should play the strong hand no matter what.

[Goriders]

Conman has time on his side. I’d try and get a younger center that can plug in rather than more draft picks unless that are included in a trade.

[The Yen Man]

I honestly have no issues keeping Ras if that's the route Conroy wants to go. I think having him and Weegar as the constants in the dcore will help bring up and develop their young guys. In a few years when Flames become contenders, they would have a good mix of vets and kids in their line up.

[Roof-Daddy]

I wish this team would just surge one way or the other.

Riding the playoff line might lead to a bad decision on this. A lot easier to sell Ras at this years deadline when he has probably his highest value if they fall back.

[stemit14]

It’s funny how things work out. I honestly think if the flames drafted Iginla or Catton instead of Parekh at the draft last year, a lot more of us would be preferring signing Andersson over trading him. Not everyone would switch but quite a few. It really is difficult because Andersson plays the one position the team is very deep at organizationally. They have at least 3 young right-handed defence prospects that look like they could become top four defencemen in the NHL. Add in Weegar and Andersson and it starts to look like it will be tough to create opportunities for these players in the next 4 years. It’s a good problem to have but it often means trading from a position of strength.

I don’t think anyone wants to trade Parekh right now. The other two defence prospect (Brz and Mews) are projecting well right now but won’t return as much as Andersson or Parekh.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Or it could be as simple as Conroy using the media to tell teams they have to convince him to trade Andersson. People take way too much away from these media pieces.

Exactly. When you want to trade a guy, the ONLY thing you should state publicly is "we have no intention of trading him, we want to get him signed long term". Even if you have no intention of trading him, or anything in between, it's always the correct go-to statement.

[Macindoc]

Conroy: I'm not listening to offers, unless someone makes one that I can't refuse.

[Ashes]

If this is all just posturing by Craig to squeeze other teams for more assets in a potential Andersson trade down the road then kudos, I'm all for it. But after passing up on the chance to trade Coleman coming off a 30 goal season that he'll never replicate, I'm not so sure.

I just hope we aren't passing up major opportunities to bolster the rebuild just to keep guys here because it "looks good" for the Flames to retain players after what happened with Johnny, Tkachuk, etc, etc.

Defence is the most stacked position for the Flames with prospects (Parekh, Mews, Morin, Poirier, Bru, Grushnikov, etc.). If there's a chance to turn Anderssson into assets that can address other areas of weakness (Centers) then it's foolish to not even consider that IMO.

Also with Mantha on LTIR, Barrie a non-factor, Kuzmenko losing his mojo, and Vladar playing average at best, it's not like we are swimming in grade A assets at the deadline. Last season we ripped off the bandaid and made all those UFA trades, now an Andersson trade this season is the next natural step in the rebuild IMO.

These are the moments of a rebuild/retool whatever you want to call it that are uncomfortable, but I'd rather see the Flames take a big swing for once. Trade the max-value asset and trust your scouts and development team to bring along young guys over the next few seasons to step into that spot.