[News] Flames presser 12pm MT. Re: Hockey Operations personnel

[Savvy27]

Conroy was very impressive answering those questions. There really wasn't much in there that I didn't like, although the "just get in and anything can happen" mantra was in there, however I think if he was calling for a tear-down he wouldn't have gotten the job.

He seems to get that the role of the GM is to be ahead of the game for asset management. Can't be scrambling to fill roles at the beginning of training camps and can't be watching players leave for nothing.

I'm excited to see how he takes this challenge on.

[Blaster86]

Conroy? Makes much sense.


Nonis? y tho?

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Nonis? y tho?

Nonis is a smart hockey guy who's been around the league for years with a lot of experience and connections. Think it's a decent move.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by dino7c

10.5M in cap space

honestly do we want Gaudreau at 10.5x7 right now?

I'll take the dweeb in a heartbeat. Just the PP alone we would have hit 105-110 points last season.

it's crazy that on such a dysfunctional team with all the crap that happened last year we were still in playoff contention until the 2nd last game.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Conroy? Makes much sense.


Nonis? y tho?

Helps mentoring? I mean, Treliving technically had Burke as a mentor. It doesn’t hurt. Nonis is probably there to give advice because he’s been there done that but ultimately the decision in anything is up to Conroy, assuming he has the permission(s) to do so.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I'll take the dweeb in a heartbeat. Just the PP alone we would have hit 105-110 points last season.

where are you taking 10.5M out though? You can't just add Gaudreau to last years team

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Helps mentoring? I mean, Treliving technically had Burke as a mentor. It doesn’t hurt. Nonis is probably there to give advice because he’s been there done that but ultimately the decision in anything is up to Conroy, assuming he has the permission(s) to do so.

Even Don Maloney said mentoring is not the word. We want Conroy doing what he is best at doing which is so far has been development, prospects, scouting, and building a good atmosphere for the team and a place where prospects can succeed. Nonis has his own connections and he can take over the aspects that he is good at doing and work as a committee to succeed. That may be contracts as one example that Don gave.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dino7c

where are you taking 10.5M out though? You can't just add Gaudreau to last years team

Kadri would hot have been signed. Simple.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Toonage

A lot of not so thinly veiled shots at Treliving and especially Sutter's handling of the team.

Loved hearing all of it.

Really?

I think he's just genuinely pointing out areas of contrast. Not everything you would do differently from a predecessor has to be a 'shot' at them. You have a different style, it's ok to say so.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by dino7c

where are you taking 10.5M out though? You can't just add Gaudreau to last years team

Markstrom, Hanifin, Lucic with another 1st rounder. Not sign Kadri.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Sarcasm? Kadri's effort is a Kadri issue, 100%.

welcome to the real world of the NHL, players quit on coaches and teams all the time

you should know this

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

No not at all. That’s why we should have traded him at the deadline the year he was a pending UFA.

To which of the 3 teams on his list?

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Really?

I think he's just genuinely pointing out areas of contrast. Not everything you would do differently from a predecessor has to be a 'shot' at them. You have a different style, it's ok to say so.

Specifically the coaching and how it wasn't fun to come to the rink. Speaking of how you're a team and have to work together - coaching and management.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Conroy? Makes much sense.


Nonis? y tho?

Nonis is fine as an AGM.

Dude gets a bad repuation for his limited time in both Vancouver and Toronto IMO.

Looking back and he had some decent drafts for both those teams.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Basically IMO it sounds like there will be no full rebuild, the team should have made the playoffs (true)
Will give youth plenty of chances for to grab a roster spot, it's up to them to do it
Will not go into season with 7 potential UFAs - asset management
The core will change a bit this offseason

All sounds good to me. As well as having Nonis and Maloney help out.

I don't think they could do a full rebuild even if they wanted to, not with 3 expensive multi-year contracts that are immoveable and practically buy-out proof.

Having said that, I don't think they would ever use the word "rebuild" even if they were planning a complete overhaul. Canadian teams have enough problems attracting players and the word "rebuild" would just scare them off even more. There is a reason why John Bean jokingly said that he isn't allowed to use that word, and it's not because they don't understand that sometimes you need to take a step back to move two steps forward. It's all a moot point though because this team isn't in a position where it is even feasible at the moment.

I love that Conroy also acknowledged that you need young players on ELCs that can contribute. They have to stop overpaying for depth.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Markstrom, Hanifin, Lucic with another 1st rounder. Not sign Kadri.

easier said than done...Gaudreau wasn't much better than Kadri this season either

team would also miss Hanifin

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Hindsight is 20/20.

The organization thought it was a matter of getting the dollar right which clearly shifted at some point to something more personal.

Craig was the one who was "it's done, we're going to get this done" when asked about resigning Johnny. He then said it hit him hard and he sat in his office quietly to think about it.

I think that's a hard lesson that he's now learned that it's not just about the dollar value but you need to manage the perception and how you treat the player the whole time they are in the organization to nudge them back to your side when they are very much on the line and down the wire. Also - better planning and contingencies are needed.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Craig was the one who was "it's done, we're going to get this done" when asked about resigning Johnny. He then said it hit him hard and he sat in his office quietly to think about it.

I think that's a hard lesson that he's now learned that it's not just about the dollar value but you need to manage the perception and how you treat the player the whole time they are in the organization to nudge them back to your side when they are very much on the line and down the wire. Also - better planning and contingencies are needed.

I would agree with your assessment.

[dammage79]

Another unified sentiment from the management team: "Draft and develop" all of them said it at one point, conny said it twice.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Kadri would hot have been signed. Simple.

uh, Math

10.5>7

I'm also not so sure Gaudreau in and Kadri out add that much to the Flames win total last season