[GT] St. Louis vs. Flames 04/02/22

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yeah seem like only the other guy is making unstoppable saves

Hey look who's in the game thread while the Flames are losing!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

OK - what's the broad and complex way? I get tha the team in front isn't playing well, but isn't that why you have a top level "elite" goalie?

Just because he's an elite goalie doesn't mean he's going to stop every single shot. Tips and screens are tough plays for every single goaltender in the league.

If you want him to stop every single shot you are asking the impossible of him. It's not like he's letting in dribblers from center ice. It's just one of those nights, not a big deal.

[timbit]

Why are people talking about the goaltending, when the top line has been directly responsible for 2 of the 3 Blues goals?

[djsFlames]

Oilers faced the worse goalie right.

Riding that backup handicap all year.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by timbit

Why are people talking about the goaltending, when the top line has been directly responsible for 2 of the 3 Blues goals?

Because it's easier to blame the goalie.

[hurtin_albertan]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Can't imagine why Sutter keeps starting Marky. Has not looked sharp his last few games at all.

Starting your starting goalie. For sure, tough to imagine.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yeah seem like only the other guy is making unstoppable saves

Oh look who it is, Flames must be down a goal

The other guy also got lucky with a couple posts and a shot that hit a dman just before going in the open net

It's a fine line

[ikaris]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Wow. You think those were stoppable?
That’s a tough bar

All three were extremely tough but the other side has gotten better saves regardless. You would hope he would have had one of them. Still bad defense too.

[direwolf]

Yikes. LA only 3 points back of the Flames now. The boys had better clean up these mental mistakes they're making, or they could find themselves in 2nd place pretty quickly.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Just because he's an elite goalie doesn't mean he's going to stop every single shot. Tips and screens are tough plays for every single goaltender in the league.

If you want him to stop every single shot you are asking the impossible of him. It's not like he's letting in dribblers from center ice. It's just one of those nights, not a big deal.

I think it's fair to say that not overworking might be a good plan either way

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Yikes. LA only 3 points back of the Flames now. The boys had better clean up these mental mistakes they're making, or they could find themselves in 2nd place pretty quickly.

4 games in hand

[fire_starter]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Yikes. LA only 3 points back of the Flames now. The boys had better clean up these mental mistakes they're making, or they could find themselves in 2nd place pretty quickly.

BOA let's go.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by dino7c

4 games in hand

Good point. Didn't realize they had so many in hand. Still though, you have to win those games to keep their cushion intact.

[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Flames are winning tonight, just a feeling

[D as in David]

Perron will inevitably get a goal (he always seems to score on us) so the Flames will need at least three more to win tonight.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

well start by considering the quality of chance. Expecting him to stop a deflected shot is silly. The second goal was perfectly placed with a partial screen in one of the tough locations for a goalie to stop. Yes he was deep in his net, but that's in part because of blown coverage that led to the chance.
So evaluate it in context and not something silly like "3 goals on 10 shots".

OK. Based on results the Flames are losing and there's been three goals on three perfect shots....out of ten. Better?

It's a results game...close ain't cutting it. Slop isn't either. And yes, goalies DO actually stop deflected shots. Sure it's partly luck, but also partly positioning. And I think Marky keeps losing his net a bit. Not sure that's such a simplistic thing. Don't like the floater goal on the first shot. You see that teams are now trying that. Methinks the video guys have picked up on something. Dunno what it is...but they wouldn't try it if they didn't know something.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Good point. Didn't realize they had so many in hand. Still though, you have to win those games to keep their cushion intact.

Well even if you win half that is a 7 point lead and LA has 11 games left

Just saying it's not as close as it looks

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

OK. Based on results the Flames are losing and there's been three goals on three perfect shots....out of ten. Better?

It's a results game...close ain't cutting it. Slop isn't either. And yes, goalies DO actually stop deflected shots. Sure it's partly luck, but also partly positioning. And I think Marky keeps losing his net a bit. Not sure that's such a simplistic thing. Don't like the floater goal on the first shot. You see that teams are now trying that. Methinks the video guys have picked up on something. Dunno what it is...but they wouldn't try it if they didn't know something.

The deflection?

[hurtin_albertan]

It’s 3-2 for God’s sake. People in here talking like they’re down by 6 and the season is over.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

OK. Based on results the Flames are losing and there's been three goals on three perfect shots....out of ten. Better?

It's a results game...close ain't cutting it. Slop isn't either. And yes, goalies DO actually stop deflected shots. Sure it's partly luck, but also partly positioning. And I think Marky keeps losing his net a bit. Not sure that's such a simplistic thing. Don't like the floater goal on the first shot. You see that teams are now trying that. Methinks the video guys have picked up on something. Dunno what it is...but they wouldn't try it if they didn't know something.

Guy it's a point shot and a tip...every team in hockey tries those the video guy didn't figure anything out. Flames just hit the post on a similar play.