Treliving June 13 - has made up his mind on coach. coach in place before draft

[The Fonz]

Bloody Gums Reirden

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Really interesting that a team is rehashing a trade discussion they had 16 months ago. I am guessing trade deadline, so completely speculating, but maybe about Wideman.

Weren't we speculating Wideman moving at that trade deadline? Then Gio got hurt, IIRC.

[the_only_turek_fan]

@TSNBobMcKenzie: RT @DarrenDreger: Carlyle's return to Anaheim leaves the Calgary Flames the line coach-less club. Gulutzan believed to be front runner. Nothing firm yet.

[Matt Reeeeead]

I predict Geoff Ward tomorrow or Wednesday

[iloveicedhockey]

I liked the sound of what I read about reirden but there's too much heat around gulutzan. I don't know too much about either and know Treliving wouldve done his homework and then some.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Intrigued by Todd Reirden. A name that sort of snuck into the conversation.

Choosing Gulutzan is logical though. Personal connections to both Treliving back to the WCHL days and the Sutter-era Flames organization in general. Can see it happening.

Looks like it's between the second-chancer and the up-and-comer to use Darren Haynes' analogies.

http://www.flamesfrom80feet.ca/2016/...ty-of-one.html

[868904]

Looks like Gulutzan's two years as a head coach with the Stars is really working against him in the eyes of some Flames fans here.

His minor pro coaching record is really impressive however, 3 straight years of winning percentages over .700 in the ECHL and lots of long playoff runs. In his 2 seasons as the Texas Stars head coach, he had good records and went to the finals one year.

He must have been a pretty hot commodity after those 2 AHL seasons, not unlike Travis Green is now.

I don't mind those two unsuccessful years as the Dallas Stars head coach. I like the idea that he's been through the wringer once and you hope he's made and learned from his mistakes. Sometimes that's better than the new hot shot who's never faced adversity.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

All the stats point to Carlyle being a horrible coach. Anyone would be better than him.

I say all things point to Carlyle being a good coach if the team and GM that knows him best is willing to re-hire him when they are pushing to become cup contenders

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Most folks think it's Reirden. Interesting.

yeah, I think it simply the fact most don't want a Canucks assistant. I think it's pretty obvious it is Gulutzan if the rumors are true, they are hammering out details and the person is picked. That interview came less than 12 hours after the Penguins won the Cup, I don't think Treliving will hire a coach without during an interview and meeting with the candidate.

edit: nevermind, I thought Reirden was still with the Pens, I guess he was with Washington the past 2 years.

[mile]

Originally Posted by 868904

I don't mind those two unsuccessful years as the Dallas Stars head coach. I like the idea that he's been through the wringer once and you hope he's made and learned from his mistakes. Sometimes that's better than the new hot shot who's never faced adversity.

Mike Sullivan coached two seasons in Boston too, before getting fired.

[868904]

Originally Posted by mile

Mike Sullivan coached two seasons in Boston too, before getting fired.

Mike Sullivan was also a Canucks assistant coach along with Glen Gulutzan under John Tortorella for those who don't like Gulutzan because of the Canuck stink or want to dismiss Gulutzan because he was part of the Tortorella - Canucks tirefire.

[Point Blank]

Thanks to CP I really really wanted Boudreau, then Dineen, then Green, now Reirden.

I think it's Gulutzan tho.

[nightfx]

Originally Posted by 868904

Looks like Gulutzan's two years as a head coach with the Stars is really working against him in the eyes of some Flames fans here.

His minor pro coaching record is really impressive however, 3 straight years of winning percentages over .700 in the ECHL and lots of long playoff runs. In his 2 seasons as the Texas Stars head coach, he had good records and went to the finals one year.

He must have been a pretty hot commodity after those 2 AHL seasons, not unlike Travis Green is now.

I don't mind those two unsuccessful years as the Dallas Stars head coach. I like the idea that he's been through the wringer once and you hope he's made and learned from his mistakes. Sometimes that's better than the new hot shot who's never faced adversity.

Just looked at the roster for his 2009-2010 AHL finals run, pretty impressive that he got so far with a team that pretty much has zero current NHL players except for Jamie Benn (who only played in the playoffs) and Colton Sceviour.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by 868904

Looks like Gulutzan's two years as a head coach with the Stars is really working against him in the eyes of some Flames fans here.

His minor pro coaching record is really impressive however, 3 straight years of winning percentages over .700 in the ECHL and lots of long playoff runs. In his 2 seasons as the Texas Stars head coach, he had good records and went to the finals one year.

He must have been a pretty hot commodity after those 2 AHL seasons, not unlike Travis Green is now.

I don't mind those two unsuccessful years as the Dallas Stars head coach. I like the idea that he's been through the wringer once and you hope he's made and learned from his mistakes. Sometimes that's better than the new hot shot who's never faced adversity.

Originally Posted by mile

Mike Sullivan coached two seasons in Boston too, before getting fired.

I kinda agree with this, but then why doesn't Jim Playfair get another shot anywhere? If you listened to some of the experts, he's one of the better hockey minds out there, yet after his tenure with the Flames, he hasn't really been given a sniff at a head coaching job again. Is it maybe that some guys are better off as assistants than head coaches (Bowness, Martin, Crawford etc.) or is it just something to do with Playfair?

I distinctly remember hearing Sutter say that Playfair will be a head coach again somewhere in the league right after he demoted him. I wonder what happened...

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I kinda agree with this, but then why doesn't Jim Playfair get another shot anywhere? If you listened to some of the experts, he's one of the better hockey minds out there, yet after his tenure with the Flames, he hasn't really been given a sniff at a head coaching job again. Is it maybe that some guys are better off as assistants than head coaches (Bowness, Martin, Crawford etc.) or is it just something to do with Playfair?

I distinctly remember hearing Sutter say that Playfair will be a head coach again somewhere in the league right after he demoted him. I wonder what happened...

After Playfair was demoted he did have that bit of a meltdown on the Abbotsford bench, it could also just be that he has found a home with the Coyotes. Playfair has been their Associate coach since he was hired and gets to work with one of the games best in Tippett. There is also the chance (I would say slim chance) that Arizona won't let him interview else like LA has with John Stevens.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 868904

I don't mind those two unsuccessful years as the Dallas Stars head coach. I like the idea that he's been through the wringer once and you hope he's made and learned from his mistakes. Sometimes that's better than the new hot shot who's never faced adversity.

Maybe. Or maybe he's just not a good NHL head coach. It's one thing to say all the right things to a GM and sell him on your vision but it's anther thing completely to get the players to buy in. It's not like other teams were busting down the Canucks doors to even interview him or anything so it's obvious that he sold Treliving in the interview process. I'm hoping for the best but my expectations are very low with this hire.

[Max Cow Disease]

What sort of remuneration comes with an associate coaching job I wonder? I suppose it would vary quite significantly. Does anyone recall what Hartley's salary was?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Max Cow Disease

What sort of remuneration comes with an associate coaching job I wonder? I suppose it would vary quite significantly. Does anyone recall what Hartley's salary was?

Hartley's salary was reported by Duhatschek to be $1.75 million per

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I kinda agree with this, but then why doesn't Jim Playfair get another shot anywhere? If you listened to some of the experts, he's one of the better hockey minds out there, yet after his tenure with the Flames, he hasn't really been given a sniff at a head coaching job again. Is it maybe that some guys are better off as assistants than head coaches (Bowness, Martin, Crawford etc.) or is it just something to do with Playfair?

I distinctly remember hearing Sutter say that Playfair will be a head coach again somewhere in the league right after he demoted him. I wonder what happened...

Lots more to it though then being a smart hockey guy. Clearly Playfair isn't instilling confidence with potential employers that make them want to give him another head coaching try. Or maybe he's decided that type of gig just isn't for him.