Flames STH meeting

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by Massonite

I asked Burke about Compliance buyouts afterwards, and told me that they are not using one.

He was a really cool guy to talk to. Even remembered my son's name after!

Treliving was a nice guy as well. I talked to him before it started. Introduced himself, very friendly.

Had a great time there. I won a jersey, my wife won a bag with various goodies.

Were you the guy he said "You're Brodies Dad." to when you stepped up to the mic? Because that confused the hell out of me, thought he was talking about TJ!

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Thanks for the summaries of these luncheons folks. Really appreciate it.

[Massonite]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

Were you the guy he said "You're Brodies Dad." to when you stepped up to the mic? Because that confused the hell out of me, thought he was talking about TJ!

Yes that was me. I had my son with me when I met King, Burke and Treliving beforehand. I've met King several times, we have a good rapport. i thought it was really cool they remembered my son's name

I thought it was Burke who said it but my wife says it was King. I can't remember haha

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by handgroen

after the session i asked him if he's ever heard of calgary puck, he says he has not. so we're all safe.
what else...confirmed that the team refused to wear the 3rd jersey, spoke to gio afterwards and told him it was one of the most embarrassing things he could remember in his career.

treliving said filitov swore he would never play in the khl during his draft meeting, poked treliving in the chest emphatically, then signed over there 2 years later.

What's the story with this? I'd never heard they actually refused to wear that thing.

[steveo]

Originally Posted by Igottago

What's the story with this? I'd never heard they actually refused to wear that thing.

It was when the flames were on a 4 game win streak or so. Hartley asked Burke if the flames could wear the regular home jerseys because the team felt superstitious about the 3rds. Burke said he'll see what he can do, then later gave them the ok. Flames won I believe. It kinda skips my memory right now.

[Roof-Daddy]

It was the 5 game home stand, they had won the first four and were scheduled to wear the 3rd's for game 5 of the home stand.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by handgroen

burke: "if i had to bet, and you can quote me on this, gaudreau will be a player...arnold will be a player, jankowski don't know yet, tell you next year, gillies don't know yet, he had a disappointing year, he needs to dominate that level if he wants to help us win."

During the lunch session, in speaking about Baertschi, Burke said something along the lines of "we're not sure what we have with him yet".

[Robbob]

The Cammalleri thread reminded me of the question about him at the trade deadline. Basically the person said that he should have been traded for anything, even a 5th. Burke mentioned again the Kesler thing screwed things up. The original asking price before the deadline was a first and prospect. The day before they lowered to just a first. Near the deadline they wanted a 2nd. Burke reiterated that you don't give assets away and a late pick isn't worth as much as having negotiating rights in his opinion. Brad followed that up by saying 1) you better believe that other GM's around the league take note and look for weakness and once you have blinked they will try and take advantage of that. 2) The only player he could remember being traded and returning to a team is Tkatcuk (sp?). Once a player is traded from a team the chance of him returning in the future is almost zero. Again the negotiating rights are worth something.

Other random thought I remember is them bringing up Penner again as the contract that started the trend of the big contract after the ELC instead of the bridge contract. Brad believes in the bridge contract. They mentioned the 6x6 club up north as an example.

In regards to Baertchi, he did say if he wanted to play in this league he will. He has decent size (which caught me off guard), skill, speed and phenomenal character. Just needs to learn to play with urgency.

I also think a few more beers into Burke would have made things a lot more interesting.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by fotze

Really? That's good to hear.

He said something like, "He's a great kid. If you had him over for dinner, you'd love him."

He also said that he watched a lot of Sven prior to his draft year because the Leafs had Brad Ross in Portland and the Leafs had him rated highly.

[shawnjohn]

Originally Posted by MattyC

If anyone who frequents here asked this question, they should make themselves known for public ridicule and/or ban. Just awful.

That was me, and the proposal was, 1st overall (ekblad) plus Brian Campbell 2013-2014 PANTHERS 82 7 30 37 -6 20 2 0 2 116 6.0
For Gio 2013-2014 FLAMES 64 14 33 47 12 63 7 0 2 180 7.8
and baertchi

[Coach]

Originally Posted by shawnjohn

That was me, and the proposal was, 1st overall (ekblad) plus Brian Campbell 2013-2014 PANTHERS 82 7 30 37 -6 20 2 0 2 116 6.0
For Gio 2013-2014 FLAMES 64 14 33 47 12 63 7 0 2 180 7.8
and baertchi

Good on you for speaking up.

I still find your trade to be ridiculous. I wouldn't trade Gio straight up for #1, let alone adding one of our top prospects to take on cap-dump Brian Campbell. I would MAYBE do Gio for both, but I doubt Florida would and I personally think trading Giordano is the height of stupidity.

I understand the want/need to buy low/sell high, which is great stock advice, but it doesn't take into account Giordano's positive impact on the team as a whole and not just as a point-getting asset.

[getbak]

A couple of things Treliving said about guys:

He said that Sieloff was his all-time favourite pre-Draft interview. He didn't really go into details about what made Sieloff his favourite, but he said that he was disappointed knowing that he was likely to be a "tweener" pick who went somewhere between two of Phoenix's picks that year.


He also talked about them bringing Monahan down to Phoenix last year for an interview before the Draft. He said he told Sean that they really liked him, but it looked like there was no way he'd end up in Phoenix because they knew he wouldn't drop to 12th, and no one in the top-5 was willing to trade down. He joked that the only way the Coyotes would be able to draft Monahan was if he planted a bunch of drugs in his luggage and hoped he got caught. He said that he called Sean after he was hired and told him that since Sean didn't go to Phoenix, Brad had to come to Calgary.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by getbak

A couple of things Treliving said about guys:

He said that Sieloff was his all-time favourite pre-Draft interview. He didn't really go into details about what made Sieloff his favourite, but he said that he was disappointed knowing that he was likely to be a "tweener" pick who went somewhere between two of Phoenix's picks that year.


He also talked about them bringing Monahan down to Phoenix last year for an interview before the Draft. He said he told Sean that they really liked him, but it looked like there was no way he'd end up in Phoenix because they knew he wouldn't drop to 12th, and no one in the top-5 was willing to trade down. He joked that the only way the Coyotes would be able to draft Monahan was if he planted a bunch of drugs in his luggage and hoped he got caught. He said that he called Sean after he was hired and told him that since Sean didn't go to Phoenix, Brad had to come to Calgary.

This is great. So far I really like Treliving, seems like a good dude.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by shawnjohn

That was me, and the proposal was, 1st overall (ekblad) plus Brian Campbell 2013-2014 PANTHERS 82 7 30 37 -6 20 2 0 2 116 6.0
For Gio 2013-2014 FLAMES 64 14 33 47 12 63 7 0 2 180 7.8
and baertchi

[hah]

Treliving talked about trying out for the Nucks, his home town team while Burke was with them. Burke told him the only way he was going to get into the Pacific Coliseum, was to buy a ticket. Treliving knew he was not going to make it. Burke also mentioned that Treliving fought Gino Odjick at that training camp, the only guy to do so, but he still didn't make it.

This was at yesterdays noon lunch.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by shawnjohn

That was me, and the proposal was, 1st overall (ekblad) plus Brian Campbell 2013-2014 PANTHERS 82 7 30 37 -6 20 2 0 2 116 6.0
For Gio 2013-2014 FLAMES 64 14 33 47 12 63 7 0 2 180 7.8
and baertchi

I was at the session and agree with Treliving's assessment that Gio is going nowhere (which generated applause). To add to that, Sven has shown flashes of greatness, you don't give up on a prospect after an off year. He is still a young man and if he finds the focus to perform every night, look the f out.

[Flames Fan in Exile]

Best STH meeting topic in years. Thanks to all who have contributed.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Flacker

I was at the session and agree with Treliving's assessment that Gio is going nowhere (which generated applause). To add to that, Sven has shown flashes of greatness, you don't give up on a prospect after an off year. He is still a young man and if he finds the focus to perform every night, look the f out.

Did trellising say that about Sven? Or is that you saying that?

[Matty81]

I don't understand how the flames ended up being the only team or draft source talking up a consensus top 5... feels like they are so obsessed with size that they are going to go outside the big 4 and are slowly prepping the fanbase for it.

It's top 4 top 4 top 4 for everybody but Burke.

[tvp2003]

Another thing that Burke mentioned yesterday -- after they traded a fourth rounder for Colborne last year, he put an embargo against Feaster on trading away any more draft picks. After Feaster left, he put that same embargo against himself.

Not sure if it has been mentioned before, but I thought it was interesting...