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Old 06-18-2013, 12:47 PM   #181
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I think you are dismissing how good Jones is.
Is he Pronger good? Is he Hedman? Larsson? Erik Johnson? I have no idea how good defensemen are based on their junior play.

He's in all likelihood a complete stud. But do you think St Louis wishes they'd taken Toews over EJ? Take the forward, the D is a good BPA consolation.
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:52 PM   #182
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I love CP.

Its amusing that a 4th rounder is considered an overpayment for a 22 year old top 10 college player who just happens to be a big, 2-way center. What exactly are people expecting to get with that 4th rounder? Do you play hard ball with FLA on this and pinch them to take a 5th - is that honestly worth it?.
Johnny Gaudreau or TJ Brodie?
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:53 PM   #183
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Knight may not be a first round talent, but the Flames really don't have a great deal to show from the 2007 to 2010 drafts in terms of 9-12 forwards, or 5-7 defenceman yet. 2010 may yield something....but I've said that before from 05 to 08. I don't mind parting with a pick that would be about 100 spots into the draft to get a more refined guy who can step in now.
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So we made the trade and got him signed. I guess the next big question is, what helmet will he be wearing?
Hear he likes Bauer helmets
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:58 PM   #185
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:58 PM   #186
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Johnny Gaudreau or TJ Brodie?
I see that and raise you a Henrik Bjorklund, Nick Larson, Hugo Carpentier, JD Watt, Aki Seitsonen, Kris Hogg & Jamie Tardif?

While there is a chance a 4th rounder will turn into something, the odds are against it.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:03 PM   #187
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Phanuthier - Since you asked so nicely, I was referring to those who felt we should have waited until he was a UFA to sign him since he was already apparently sold on Calgary.

Had we waited until he was a UFA there was a good chance that we don't land him and then the fire feaster thread gets bumped by those same people who wanted to wait claiming we should have just given a 4th for him.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:09 PM   #188
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Happy with the signing but I wonder what it means for Bouma, Reinhart, Horak, Jones. I honestly hope Bouma is our 4th line centre to start the season and I have high hopes for Reinhart as well. Horak to the wing?

Sounds to me like Knight, Bouma and Reinhart will be battling for the bottom six centre spots.
Bouma is more of a LWer IMO. I think we only had him at centre due to lack of depth.
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Also remember, Nemisz has been converted to RW which we're really thin on prospect wise.

I don't mind keeping him around in hopes he can develop into a 4th/3rd liner.
Converted? He was drafted as a RWer...
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:12 PM   #191
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From a hockey perspective (and that's all that really matters, I guess), this is a good move. I can't stand guys who refuse to sign with the teams that draft them, though.
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Now to read all the "bashing" comments about Knight in the Jihad thread. LOL
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:17 PM   #193
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For comparison to our other 4th rounder picks:

2012: Brett Kulak
2011: John Gaudreau
2010: Bill Arnold
2009: Henrik Bjorklund - Currently: Swe-1
2008: T.J. Brodie
2007: Keith Aulie
2006: Hugo Carpentier - Currently: LNAH (?)
2005: J.D. Watt - Currently: Heat
2004: Aki Seitsonen, Kris Hogg - Currently: Both N/A
2003: Jamie Tardif - Currently: AHL
2002: Yuri Artemenkov - Currently: N/A
2001: Tomi Maki, Egor Shastin - Currently: SM-Liiga, KHL
2000: Levente Szuper - Khazak hockey?


Anyone complaining about this should be banned. Seriously.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:19 PM   #194
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2005: J.D. Watt - Currently: Heat
Watt is playing with the SAIT Trojans (CCAA) last I checked.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:22 PM   #195
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Why waste the money and space though? He is not ever going to be an NHLer, throw him on the Chucko train with the other busts.
It doesn't look good but it's too early to give up on Nemisz. Give him one more year. I rather "waste" a spot with Nemisz than a player like Kolanos.
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From a hockey perspective (and that's all that really matters, I guess), this is a good move. I can't stand guys who refuse to sign with the teams that draft them, though.
He wasn't going to get a serious chance in Florida as they have many other young centers they want to give a serious look to first. What what you do in his situation ? It was a career move so it would give him a serious chance at getting some ice time. That's the business side of things, no sense being a good talent and rotting on there farm team.
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Converted? He was drafted as a RWer...
Nope, he was drafted as a centre. From CP (2008)

http://www.calgarypuck.com/2008/06/f...k-greg-nemisz/

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Old 06-18-2013, 01:26 PM   #198
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From a hockey perspective (and that's all that really matters, I guess), this is a good move. I can't stand guys who refuse to sign with the teams that draft them, though.
Yeah I hope this isn't becoming a trend.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:27 PM   #199
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I think Tom for 3, Hudler signing, Cervenka (even though a bust) were his best moves to date. Maybe the Jay Bouwmeester deal too as I think Cundari is exactly the type of player the Flames should be getting (and we got a 1st).
Cevrenka??!!how is that a top 3 move to-date??
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:27 PM   #200
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Watt is playing with the SAIT Trojans (CCAA) last I checked.
Looks like i checked last pro level (2010-2011 Season).

My point only solidifies!


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