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Old 01-30-2005, 05:11 PM   #41
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Ssssoooo . . . tell me, how much have you watched Bill O'Reilly, Bernard Goldberg, and Ann Coulter do their schtick on the Fox News Channel?
What the hell does that have to do with this conversation?

I've agreed several times that the CBC has a left-wing bias. In the show everyone except you is discussing, they interviewed Bernard Goldberg, who makes a living writing books about, guess what? the left-wing media bias and how prevalent it is. They mentioned his outstanding credentials, let him say his piece, and didn't make him look like a nut or a ###### at all. That was the point. You just missed it.

Just for fun though, I don't get to see Bill and Anne too regularly as I don't get that channel. I have an internet connection though, and I can read.
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I think what he is trying to get at is you are taking a fraction of the available information and making a judgement based on that information, something that you just chastised him for. I could be wrong, but that is how I saw the comment.
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It should be pointed out that the show in question is NOT a news reporting show, it's a magazine show. Hannity and Colmes which pits an over the top conservative against a very unridiculous and often unwilling liberal on current issues. I find Alan Colmes to be somewhat unwilling to take ridiculous liberal positions on issues just so that two polar sides can be presented. Things aren't always polar.

Someone earlier in the thread asked what they were doing speaking like that on the news....well, it wasn't the news.

That said, I'm not a big fan of Ann Coulter at all.
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Old 01-30-2005, 07:38 PM   #44
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I think what he is trying to get at is you are taking a fraction of the available information and making a judgement based on that information, something that you just chastised him for. I could be wrong, but that is how I saw the comment.

That could be what he's getting at. It's wrong, so it fits the pattern.

I'm not taking a fraction of the information -- I watched 9/9ths of the show. The pig Coulter got humiliated and the braying lunatic O'Reilly screamed at a 9/11 victim for not supporting the Iraq war. No amount of left-wing spin or CBC editing jobs could have made them look worse. They did it to themselves.

DFF -- O'Reilly was on the news. Isn't he the anchor?
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Not bad for such a loonie, wimp,leftie like me
I love this mis-conception from right wingers. Because I oppose the war, am pro-choice, don't like guns, and am against some types of business I am some sort of p*ssy who eats grain, and ties himself to a tree.


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DFF -- O'Reilly was on the news. Isn't he the anchor?
I'm not sure O'Reilly has EVER been an anchor. He certainly isn't one on the Fox News Channel.
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DFF -- O'Reilly was on the news. Isn't he the anchor?
I'm not sure O'Reilly has EVER been an anchor. He certainly isn't one on the Fox News Channel. [/b][/quote]
Wasn't he the host of Inside Edition?
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DFF -- O'Reilly was on the news.# Isn't he the anchor?

I'm not sure O'Reilly has EVER been an anchor. He certainly isn't one on the Fox News Channel.
Wasn't he the host of Inside Edition? [/b][/quote]
Yep. Hardly a news reporting show.
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I think what he is trying to get at is you are taking a fraction of the available information and making a judgement based on that information, something that you just chastised him for. I could be wrong, but that is how I saw the comment.
Thanks. I couldn't have said it any better.
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Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Jan 30 2005, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Jan 30 2005, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Mean Mr. Mustard@Jan 30 2005, 06:21 PM
I think what he is trying to get at is you are taking a fraction of the available information and making a judgement based on that information, something that you just chastised him for. I could be wrong, but that is how I saw the comment.

That could be what he's getting at. It's wrong, so it fits the pattern.

I'm not taking a fraction of the information -- I watched 9/9ths of the show. The pig Coulter got humiliated and the braying lunatic O'Reilly screamed at a 9/11 victim for not supporting the Iraq war. No amount of left-wing spin or CBC editing jobs could have made them look worse. They did it to themselves.

DFF -- O'Reilly was on the news. Isn't he the anchor?[/b][/quote]
You're criticizing me for not having watched the whole 5th Estate program "Sticks and Stones" and you don't even know O'Reilly wasn't the news anchor at the Fox News Channel?

You just confirmed the point I was making and which you thought was so ridiculous.
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You're criticizing me for not having watched the whole 5th Estate program "Sticks and Stones" and you don't even know O'Reilly wasn't the news anchor at the Fox News Channel?

Yes.

The conversation began with and has been about a particular episode of "The 5th Estate" all along. Who the actual anchor is at Fox hasn't been relevant in the least.
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http://www.muchosucko.com/video-dontexpect...upinafight.html

A clip of part of the show in question.
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I think it is hilarious when the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O`Reilly and Coulter.

Talk about intelectual bankruptcy.
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I think it is hilarious when the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O`Reilly and Coulter.

Talk about intelectual bankruptcy.
Good point.

One day maybe we'll get it together and dig up some dirt on George Bush.

Maybe I'll switch my allegiance and start preaching the word of some crackpot scheme. Any ideas?
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I think it is hilarious when the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O`Reilly and Coulter.

Talk about intelectual bankruptcy.
Where did anyone suggest that 'the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O' Reilly and Coulter'? Are you new to this Forum? There have been many, maaanny Left vs. Right debates on this board, many of which centre on a myriad of events and figures.

What a dumb comment. You're a credit to your philosophy.
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I think it is hilarious when the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O`Reilly and Coulter.

Talk about intelectual bankruptcy.
Where did anyone suggest that 'the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O' Reilly and Coulter'? Are you new to this Forum? There have been many, maaanny Left vs. Right debates on this board, many of which centre on a myriad of events and figures.

What a dumb comment. You're a credit to your philosophy. [/b][/quote]
Name one right wing philosopher or economist that is not from the FOX and the like (american mainstream media). Name one. All you can do is trash Bush and Coulter and conclude that antisocialist opinions are insane. Thats like picking Domi and Belak and conclude that hockey is stupid and ridiculous.
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Name one right wing philosopher or economist that is not from the FOX and the like (american mainstream media). Name one.
Dave Bercuson and Barry Cooper.

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Name one right wing philosopher or economist that is not from the FOX and the like (american mainstream media). Name one.
Dave Bercuson and Barry Cooper.

Do I win a prize? [/b][/quote]
I dont know, do people from extreme right wing, fearmongering and evil pro american Fraser Institute count?

I dont recall ever discussing Coopers opinions here (admitelly I dont know much about Bercuson since I`m not from Uni of Calgary). It is all Coulter this O`Reilly that.

They are popular figures and might be great for entertainment but not for a serious right vs left discussion. I have never read academic paper quoting Coulter or O`Reilly.Thats my point basically.
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I think it is hilarious when the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O`Reilly and Coulter.

Talk about intelectual bankruptcy.

Where did anyone suggest that 'the only way how the left can make the right look bad is to ridicule O' Reilly and Coulter'? Are you new to this Forum? There have been many, maaanny Left vs. Right debates on this board, many of which centre on a myriad of events and figures.

What a dumb comment. You're a credit to your philosophy.
Name one right wing philosopher or economist that is not from the FOX and the like (american mainstream media). Name one. All you can do is trash Bush and Coulter and conclude that antisocialist opinions are insane. Thats like picking Domi and Belak and conclude that hockey is stupid and ridiculous. [/b][/quote]
Edmund Burke.

I've named one. What's the point of this?
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Name one right wing philosopher or economist that is not from the FOX and the like (american mainstream media). Name one.

Dave Bercuson and Barry Cooper.

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I dont know, do people from extreme right wing, fearmongering and evil pro american Fraser Institute count?

I dont recall ever discussing Coopers opinions here (admitelly I dont know much about Bercuson since I`m not from Uni of Calgary). It is all Coulter this O`Reilly that.

They are popular figures and might be great for entertainment but not for a serious right vs left discussion. I have never read academic paper quoting Coulter or O`Reilly.Thats my point basically. [/b][/quote]
Well they may not be fit for serious academic discussion but they make the most noise and a lot more people listen to them than they do any serious political thinker.

Plus, it's fun to ridicule these morons. And really easy.
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