Israelis do stealth attack in Syria

[Flashpoint]

During the early hours of last Thursday morning, a number of Israeli jets appear to have entered Syrian air-space from the Mediterranean Sea, possibly penetrating deep into the country.

Reminds me of the Israeli mission to blow up the Iraqi nuclear program in the 80's. There was a good episode of "Dogfights" about it. They had extra drop tanks of fuel they dropped over Syria then too.

At any rate - they apparently sent aircraft pretty deep in to Syria... for... something... probably not good.

Or good, depending on your perspective I suppose.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6991718.stm

Let the rampant speculation begin! At least until something shows up on Youtube.

[TheDragon]

Israel has been infiltrating Syrian airspace for years. This doesn't strike me as anything out of the norm - and I really doubt that either the US or the UN will do much to stop anything until it happens, ala Lebanon last year.

[HOZ]

Apparently those dastardly JOOOS just blew up a Syrian - North Korean shipment of Nukes!

Israelis ‘blew apart Syrian nuclear cache’

All unconfirmed of course! But the lack of griping by the Syrians is defeaning!!!

A tale of two dictatorships: The links between North Korea and Syria


A second Osirak?? NYT

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by HOZ

All unconfirmed of course! But the lack of griping by the Syrians is defeaning!!!

It is? It's right in the first story...

Syria has lodged a protest at the United Nations in response to the airstrike, accusing Israel of “flagrant violation” of its airspace. But Israel’s government has repeatedly declined to comment on the matter.

What did you expect them to do, come to your house?

Also, what's with the derogatory spelling of Jews...? What is that supposed to mean? What does that contribute?

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

It is? It's right in the first story...

Syria has lodged a protest at the United Nations in response to the airstrike, accusing Israel of “flagrant violation” of its airspace. But Israel’s government has repeatedly declined to comment on the matter.

What did you expect them to do, come to your house?

Also, what's with the derogatory spelling of Jews...? What is that supposed to mean? What does that contribute?

Sorry....Zionists/Israelis.

The Jooos...eerrrr Zionists/Israelis breathing seems to get them and their proxies protesting to the UN. SO I figured it was pretty tame stuff for a flagrant violation of their airspace.

* No videos or photos of Rage Boy screaming death to (fill in here)?
* No photos of 100000000000000 children's bodies being dug up, reburried and dug up again for the international media?
* No photos of the same woman 6 times standing by her destroyed home 6 times in 6 different places?


VERY QUIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Also, what's with the derogatory spelling of Jews...? What is that supposed to mean? What does that contribute?

It's an underhanded inference that those that don't like actions committed by the Isreali government are all anti-Semitic. It's a very, very commonly used tactic by the right wingers.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

It's an underhanded inference that those that don't like actions committed by the Isreali government are all anti-Semitic. It's a very, very commonly used tactic by the right wingers.

Actually itis much easier to type 2 O's and an s rather than having to think and switch keys.....according to a recent study

[blankall]

There is a very good reason why Syria has kept this under raps. The Israelis are claiming the target was a shipment of weapons that was illegally being transported to Hezbollah from Iran. Syria claims to not be interferring with Lebanese politics. They can't very well stand before the UN general assembly and say that Israel blew up their illegal weopans. It would be the equivalent of a drug dealer reporting stolen drugs to the police.

Technically Israel and Syria are still in a state or war too, so I don't think the UN can really do much about it anyway.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Actually itis much easier to type 2 O's and an s rather than having to think and switch keys.....according to a recent study

Everytime you post you provide more concrete evidence to support that study.



The Devil's Advocate's assessment of your post was right on the money.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Actually itis much easier to type 2 O's and an s rather than having to think and switch keys.....according to a recent study

Well, considering you can't even count the number of "O's" you spelled it with (you used 3 the 2 times you spelled it), I'd say the evidence is continuing to mount. As if anyone didn't have any suspicions of you before HOZ.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by blankall

Technically Israel and Syria are still in a state or war too, so I don't think the UN can really do much about it anyway.

So, if North Korea managed to sneak a nuke into Los Angeles and destroy a good chunk of Los Angeles County, it would be okay, because "technically" North Korea and the United States are still in a state of war?

What ever the UN decides to do to Israel, or the United States for that matter, is irrelevant. Both countries routinely whine and cry about issues that affect them but, at the same time, wave the middle finger to the same body for their actions. A resolution can be passed against Israel, but the US will just veto it (they have done so in each of the last 23 resolutions passed against Israel). Until the two most rogue nations of the world (the US and Israel) start following international law and observing international accords, there is little anyone can do to stop them from doing what they do, without full out world war. A change in foreign policy by both countries is needed for issues to be resolved.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Sorry....Zionists/Israelis.

The Jooos...eerrrr Zionists/Israelis breathing seems to get them and their proxies protesting to the UN. SO I figured it was pretty tame stuff for a flagrant violation of their airspace.

* No videos or photos of Rage Boy screaming death to (fill in here)?
* No photos of 100000000000000 children's bodies being dug up, reburried and dug up again for the international media?
* No photos of the same woman 6 times standing by her destroyed home 6 times in 6 different places?


VERY QUIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOZ, why do you sometimes inexplicably just go off the deep end? I mean, I know what you're trying to say, buy why make it sound so weird? It just makes you lose respect for your position.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

What ever the UN decides to do to Israel, or the United States for that matter, is irrelevant. Both countries routinely whine and cry about issues that affect them but, at the same time, wave the middle finger to the same body for their actions. A change in foreign policy by both countries is needed for issues to be resolved.

Great post Lanny. The Israelis and Americans thumb their nose at the international community which not only makes international law pointless but solidifies world opinion against both countries.

IF a change of foreign policy occurs, it will have to be dramatic and long sustained to repair their reputations... but it wont happen.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

So, if North Korea managed to sneak a nuke into Los Angeles and destroy a good chunk of Los Angeles County, it would be okay, because "technically" North Korea and the United States are still in a state of war?

What ever the UN decides to do to Israel, or the United States for that matter, is irrelevant. Both countries routinely whine and cry about issues that affect them but, at the same time, wave the middle finger to the same body for their actions. A resolution can be passed against Israel, but the US will just veto it (they have done so in each of the last 23 resolutions passed against Israel). Until the two most rogue nations of the world (the US and Israel) start following international law and observing international accords, there is little anyone can do to stop them from doing what they do, without full out world war. A change in foreign policy by both countries is needed for issues to be resolved.

I wasn't saying it was okay or not, but I'm just explaining the silence to the UN. Syria knows what it was doing would cause waaaay more trouble and is in violation of way more agreements than Israel violating airspace and attackign a weapons shipment.

The US and North Korea are not in a state of war BTW. Syria and Israel officially are. Also I dont know how setting off a nuke compares to Isreal stopping Syria from bringing weapons to Hezbolla. In fact, they are not comparable situations at all....

I do agree with you on one point though... the UN is pretty useless. Yes LAnny we get the point. You don't like the US or Israel. I'm not really sure how you turning this into some rant about the US's foreign policy really adds anything to this conversation. IN fact, why don't we just stop discussing the actual event in discussion and just rant about how the US's foreign policy is destroying the world. How many threads where people have been trying to have intelligent conversations have you destroyed with this tired babble?

[FlamesAddiction]

As long as they aren't killing civillians or causing massive collateral damage, I don't really mind Israel keeping Syria in check. In fact, Syria should have been higher than iraq on the list of countries that needed a regime change. They contantly cause instability amongst their neighbours (Lebanon, Iraq (pre and post Saddam), and Israel of course). While Saddam Hussein used brutality to control the rise of violence and treason during his reign in Iraq, the Syrians have been a much greater threat to stability outside its borders.

Don't get me wrong, Israel is no angel either and should be held accountable for their aggressions, but the current Syrian regime doesn't deserve an ounce of space either.

[Azure]

Agreed FA.

Nothing wrong with Israel keeping a check on Syria.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by blankall

I wasn't saying it was okay or not, but I'm just explaining the silence to the UN. Syria knows what it was doing would cause waaaay more trouble and is in violation of way more agreements than Israel violating airspace and attackign a weapons shipment.

Bull. One country is receiving a shipment of arms, and another violates another countries airspace to destroy said weapons, and the country receiving the weapons has more explaining to do? So the next time the Americans floats a shipload of weapons into Israel it is okay for another nations to take them out, and its Israel who has some explaining to do?

The US and North Korea are not in a state of war BTW. Syria and Israel officially are. Also I dont know how setting off a nuke compares to Isreal stopping Syria from bringing weapons to Hezbolla. In fact, they are not comparable situations at all....

Actually, North Korea and the United States are "technically" still in a state of war. The only thing maintaining the peace between those nations is an armistise. North and South Korea have actually been hoping to find a peace treaty to replace the armistise. The only hold up, is the United States' involvement in matters.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...=World_3054920

I do agree with you on one point though... the UN is pretty useless.

Primarily because of the actions of one nation, and it's puppet state, but why point fingers?

Yes LAnny we get the point. You don't like the US or Israel.

No, I love the United States. It is my home. It is my country (one of the two anyways). I do my part to defend this nation on a daily basis, so that gives me the priviledge to use my first ammendment right. The foreign policy of this nation has been hijacked, and it impacts the rest of the world, especially the nations being discussed. That puts the subject matter front and center, whether it you can compute that or not.

I'm not really sure how you turning this into some rant about the US's foreign policy really adds anything to this conversation.

Because some "mouth breather" had the audacity to excuse Israel for its military act of terror.

IN fact, why don't we just stop discussing the actual event in discussion and just rant about how the US's foreign policy is destroying the world. How many threads where people have been trying to have intelligent conversations have you destroyed with this tired babble?

This subject matter is well beyond your intellect. You seem to fail to understand the far reaching effect of American foreign policy, and how the support the US provides to Israel maintains an imbalance in the region. If you can't defend or attack a point properly, then do like the right's hero, Bill O'Reilly, tells everyone, and shut up.

[Gugstanley]

[quote=Lanny_MacDonald;993783]

No, I love the United States. It is my home. It is my country (one of the two anyways). I do my part to defend this nation on a daily basis, so that gives me the priviledge to use my first ammendment right. The foreign policy of this nation has been hijacked, and it impacts the rest of the world, especially the nations being discussed. That puts the subject matter front and center, whether it you can compute that or not.




I am actually really curious as to how you defend the nation on a daily basis?

[badnarik]

you don't have to defend the nation to use your first amendment right although that could be where the country is heading.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Bull. One country is receiving a shipment of arms, and another violates another countries airspace to destroy said weapons, and the country receiving the weapons has more explaining to do? So the next time the Americans floats a shipload of weapons into Israel it is okay for another nations to take them out, and its Israel who has some explaining to do?



Actually, North Korea and the United States are "technically" still in a state of war. The only thing maintaining the peace between those nations is an armistise. North and South Korea have actually been hoping to find a peace treaty to replace the armistise. The only hold up, is the United States' involvement in matters.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...=World_3054920



Primarily because of the actions of one nation, and it's puppet state, but why point fingers?



No, I love the United States. It is my home. It is my country (one of the two anyways). I do my part to defend this nation on a daily basis, so that gives me the priviledge to use my first ammendment right. The foreign policy of this nation has been hijacked, and it impacts the rest of the world, especially the nations being discussed. That puts the subject matter front and center, whether it you can compute that or not.



Because some "mouth breather" had the audacity to excuse Israel for its military act of terror.



This subject matter is well beyond your intellect. You seem to fail to understand the far reaching effect of American foreign policy, and how the support the US provides to Israel maintains an imbalance in the region. If you can't defend or attack a point properly, then do like the right's hero, Bill O'Reilly, tells everyone, and shut up.

There is a difference between an armistice and a disengagement agreement....Syria refuses to recognize Israel so there is no armistice in place. Also, assuming you are correct about this shipment, then why doesn't Syria complain to the General Assembly in the UN, which at this ponit has been extremely anti-Israel in every facet. As for all the UN motions against Israel, don't you think that the fact there are so many kind of suggests something not entirely fair going on. Yes what Israel does is not perfect, but how does this compare to what goes on in Sudan, China, Russia, etc... yet these countries only receive a fraction fo the motions against them.

Yeah I can't defend a point here that is obviously what is going on..... its not me getting annoyed at you derailing every thread by putting in the exact same argument everytime US foreign policy or Israel is mentioned.