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View Poll Results: Would you take steroids or other banned substances if it meant a pro career?
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Yes
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09-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Rick Ankiel, WOW! Why did this guy ever pitch?
Ankiel is batting .358 with nine homers and 29 RBIs in 23 games. 7 RBIs and two homers tonight. Amazing!
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09-06-2007, 10:18 PM
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#2
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First Line Centre
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Ankiel is quite the story, eh? I'm absolutely amazed at what he's accomplished since his pitching meltdown. Nice to see. Hope he can keep it going.
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09-07-2007, 02:54 AM
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Official CP Photographer
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PL15
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Too bad there's word he ordered some human growth hormone.
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09-07-2007, 09:04 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Strathmore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neeper
Too bad there's word he ordered some human growth hormone.
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Yeah, here is the link.
http://tsn.ca/mlb/news_story/?ID=217745&hubname=
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09-07-2007, 09:16 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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from the ESPN article:
Ankiel has not been accused by authorities of wrongdoing, and stopped receiving HGH just before Major League Baseball officially banned it in 2005, The News reported.
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09-07-2007, 09:19 AM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Thats goofy that they don't test for it as part of their drug testing. It's like Baseball is still wanting these guys to use it and mash out home runs...but wants to try and claim it's a clean sport. What a bunch of spineless billionaires the owners are.
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"Some guys like old balls"
Patriots QB Tom Brady
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09-07-2007, 09:22 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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Is he the reincarnation of Babe Ruth?
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09-07-2007, 09:28 AM
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#8
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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man, this is just sad. This could have been such a wonderful life-lesson about never giving up, and now it looks like it's turned into another loser on dope dissapointment.
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09-07-2007, 09:30 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Thats goofy that they don't test for it as part of their drug testing. It's like Baseball is still wanting these guys to use it and mash out home runs...but wants to try and claim it's a clean sport. What a bunch of spineless billionaires the owners are.
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the problem with HGH is that there isn't an accurate test to detect it.
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09-07-2007, 09:57 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
the problem with HGH is that there isn't an accurate test to detect it.
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Sure there is, but it is a blood test.
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Another factor contributing to HGH's popularity: Leagues that ban it don't test for it. There is only one effective test for HGH detection, and it involves a blood sample. Unions in most major sports have been unwilling to subject their players to blood work, deeming it a physical intrusion. As NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw recently put it, "I'm still not willing to have our players stuck like a pin cushion."
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ble0312/3.html
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—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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09-07-2007, 10:13 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary...Alberta, Canada
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If he hasn't been using it for two years, I don't see the problem here.
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09-07-2007, 10:16 AM
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Retired
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Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn
Is he the reincarnation of Babe Ruth?
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Easily could have been if he hadn't lost so many years off his career with his demons/confidence issues on the mound.
Not since Babe have we seen a player who can simply dominate pitching or playing the field. It really is amazing to think of what could have been. Putting up the numbers he did pitching, and at his age, was nothing short of amazing in the Majors.
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09-07-2007, 10:17 AM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Well the issue is how much did he order....and was he still using it after he ordered it type of thing. Does he have a basement full of it that he's still taking, or was he ordering a monthly supply to take and didn't possess any of it after it was banned. It's like Amsterdam drug laws....you can use it...but you can't possess it. But they can't search you to prove you possess it type of thing. Good times.
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"Some guys like old balls"
Patriots QB Tom Brady
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09-07-2007, 10:21 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Thats goofy that they don't test for it as part of their drug testing. It's like Baseball is still wanting these guys to use it and mash out home runs...but wants to try and claim it's a clean sport. What a bunch of spineless billionaires the owners are.
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It's not just the owners. The MLBPA militantly opposed really any kind of testing or suspension for drug use until Congress basically forced them into it.
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09-07-2007, 11:08 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
man, this is just sad. This could have been such a wonderful life-lesson about never giving up, and now it looks like it's turned into another loser on dope dissapointment.
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He stopped using it a couple years ago, so any benefit he received from it is long since worn off. What he's doing in late 2007 is really amazing.
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09-07-2007, 11:47 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
He stopped using it a couple years ago, so any benefit he received from it is long since worn off. What he's doing in late 2007 is really amazing.
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Do you have a link? Or is that wishful thinking?
__________________
"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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09-07-2007, 11:55 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Honestly I don't care anymore. The drug companies are always going to be ahead of the testing so there's always going to be cheaters, and always has been. So if this is the way pro sports is going to be - so be it. Fart if sticking a needle in my ass would gaurantee me a spot in the highest level of pro sports - I'd probably do it too. In fact I know I would.
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09-07-2007, 11:58 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Fart if sticking a needle in my ass would gaurantee me a spot in the highest level of pro sports - I'd probably do it too. In fact I know I would.
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that's actually sorta sad to hear. I took you for a man with more integrity.
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09-07-2007, 12:00 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Do you have a link? Or is that wishful thinking?
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Im just going on what the New York Daily News is reporting. Granted, he could have gotten HGH from other sources and still be using, but the reports that the Daily News is citing says that he stopped prior to 2005 and before it was banned by MLB.
I dont get the story - if he did it before 2005, MLB cannot suspend him so what's the point of the story. If he's still doing it, wait for evidence to prove it before raising suspicions.
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09-07-2007, 12:03 PM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
that's actually sorta sad to hear. I took you for a man with more integrity.
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Haha. I admit, I would strongly consider it too if it guaranteed me a chance at millions. And for a couple of non-athletes to say they would consider it, imagine what actual athletes are facing.
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