U tube to pay musicians

[redforever]

Kind of an interesting development for UK musicians. They need to earn a living, cant keep producing music that people download for free. Guess they will be paid directly instead of the money first going to record companies etc.

http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=T&...CYumqgPO19DSBw

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by redforever

Kind of an interesting development for UK musicians. They need to earn a living, cant keep producing music that people download for free. Guess they will be paid directly instead of the money first going to record companies etc.

http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=T&...CYumqgPO19DSBw

Care to back up that statement? If nobody hears their music in the first place they aren't going to make any money. If they are well known enough that their stuff is getting a lot of downloads then they are probably doing alright. The last 2 CDs I purchased I would never have bought if I hadn't been able to download and listen to the entire CD first.

On topic, this is a good idea, although I wonder how much money will go to the performers. It is a one-time payment to be split between 50,000 people.

Where the artists can really earn money is using this to get exposure. Especially artists who don't get mainstream airplay, this is a chance to get their music heard.

[Igottago]

The internet is slowly killing music, and I don't mean just from a piracy standpoint. More is not better, it is just more. I'm sick of hearing about all the "next big things", which someone found on the internet and wants to take credit for. 99% of the bands that get hyped up aren't really great anyways. Bands are having less and less longevity and don't get to develop careers, they seem to have to create an impact with 1 or 2 records and then they disappear. The internet is watering down the talent pool, just like expansion does in hockey. It seems for every 1 artist who does get discovered and has some actual talent, you get 200 hacks who have the right haircut and clothes to be marketed.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The internet is slowly killing music, and I don't mean just from a piracy standpoint. More is not better, it is just more. I'm sick of hearing about all the "next big things", which someone found on the internet and wants to take credit for. 99% of the bands that get hyped up aren't really great anyways. Bands are having less and less longevity and don't get to develop careers, they seem to have to create an impact with 1 or 2 records and then they disappear. The internet is watering down the talent pool, just like expansion does in hockey. It seems for every 1 artist who does get discovered and has some actual talent, you get 200 hacks who have the right haircut and clothes to be marketed.

Replace every instance of "the internet" in that post with "MTV" and you'd have an almost word-for-word copy of what people were saying 20 years ago.

I think the internet is ultimately good for musicians; I know the vast majority of music I listen to now is artists who get little or no airplay on mainstream radio or television.

[Stranger]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Replace every instance of "the internet" in that post with "MTV" and you'd have an almost word-for-word copy of what people were saying 20 years ago.

I think the internet is ultimately good for musicians; I know the vast majority of music I listen to now is artists who get little or no airplay on mainstream radio or television.

You're right about the MTV thing. As soon as someone could sell a song on their looks, music was ruined. Rock and Country arguably hit their peak in the 70's right before music videos became so popular on MTV. Now rock is generic and boring and country is almost unlistenable.

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The internet is slowly killing music, and I don't mean just from a piracy standpoint. More is not better, it is just more. I'm sick of hearing about all the "next big things", which someone found on the internet and wants to take credit for. 99% of the bands that get hyped up aren't really great anyways. Bands are having less and less longevity and don't get to develop careers, they seem to have to create an impact with 1 or 2 records and then they disappear. The internet is watering down the talent pool, just like expansion does in hockey. It seems for every 1 artist who does get discovered and has some actual talent, you get 200 hacks who have the right haircut and clothes to be marketed.

No, the music industry is slowly killing music. How much crap is produced no a days to make money? I can't even listen to the radio anymore, it's just terrible. No, I think I'll stick with downloading music and when I find a band I like, then I'll go buy a CD.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

No, the music industry is slowly killing music. How much crap is produced no a days to make money? I can't even listen to the radio anymore, it's just terrible. No, I think I'll stick with downloading music and when I find a band I like, then I'll go buy a CD.

Oh I agree, I'm not letting the majors off the hook...they've done this to themselves...and I agree that radio is sickening and isn't even worth listening to. However, I think the internet is so huge, and so big, that there is almost too much to sift through. I almost always use the internet to find my music, but I just seem to be getting way more misses than hits these days.

[Joborule]

It's MTV that's killing music. Most of the things I hear on the internet are from people I would never knew and are actually good.

A couple underground rappers I know seem to be rising up a bit too. Hopefully the trend continues and more people recognize stuff out of the current mainstream.

[Bobblehead]

From what I see, MTV and Much don't really play that many videos anymore.

Although I wonder if when MTV started there wasn't a huge shift in the music industry. Suddenly the marketing of artists became vital. Bands and artists needed a "look", and that became as important as the music. There were some UGLY artists in the 60s and 70s, but since the only way you ever really saw them was in concert the only thing that really mattered was the music. Sure, the ability to get commercial radio airplay was critical, but you still can't see people on the radio. Then MTV became another outlet and the look became as important as the music.

I don't believe all commercial music is crap, but there are a lot of artists who didn't have a "look", and I'm sure a lot of those artists never got a fair shot from record companies.

Now artists have a chance at distribution outside of the traditional channels no matter what they look like (or sound like).

[MarchHare]

I don't believe all commercial music is crap, but there are a lot of artists who didn't have a "look", and I'm sure a lot of those artists never got a fair shot from record companies.

Can you imagine someone like Bob Dylan or Neil Young trying to get a record deal in today's image-obsessed environment? It makes me wonder how many brilliant artists were completely lost to the world because they didn't look like models in addition to being ace songwriters.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The internet is slowly killing music, and I don't mean just from a piracy standpoint. More is not better, it is just more. I'm sick of hearing about all the "next big things", which someone found on the internet and wants to take credit for. 99% of the bands that get hyped up aren't really great anyways. Bands are having less and less longevity and don't get to develop careers, they seem to have to create an impact with 1 or 2 records and then they disappear. The internet is watering down the talent pool, just like expansion does in hockey. It seems for every 1 artist who does get discovered and has some actual talent, you get 200 hacks who have the right haircut and clothes to be marketed.

Well, another thing the internet can do, and very quickly, is promote someone with marginal talent, who for some reason or other, has struck the emotional chords of people and they buy into the internet phenomenon.

example, the promotion of Paul Potts, the amateur so called opera singer. He was a car salesman, won a talent contest in Britain, had a background that you feel sorry for the guy, and then the internet took off with how he is the up and coming Pavarotti. not!!!

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Oh I agree, I'm not letting the majors off the hook...they've done this to themselves...and I agree that radio is sickening and isn't even worth listening to. However, I think the internet is so huge, and so big, that there is almost too much to sift through. I almost always use the internet to find my music, but I just seem to be getting way more misses than hits these days.

If they were smart they'd take the internet and use it for good to turn around and make a profit. They've only just started to do it but had they been doing it years ago instead of bitching about the tens of dollars that their greedy pockets are missing I doubt anyone would be talking about this anymore.