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			Wiki's arent legit sources of news/information - that is what you get. Wiki's are great quick refence points for further thought/discussion/and learning. 
  
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			08-17-2007, 11:53 AM
			
			
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			I love and hate that website, sometimes it is a great source of information but then other times you can tell whoever edited it last was an idiot. For example I visited the Maple Leafs page to see the last year they won the cup. And the page started off with: 
  
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			08-17-2007, 11:54 AM
			
			
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			So aren't the CIA aloud to have a little fun with wiki too?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-17-2007, 11:55 AM
			
			
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			It's not surprising that organiizations like the CIA and the Vatican would take advantage of the Wikipedia's open editting feature. Why should they be any different than everyone else. I have pillaged a coiuple sites myself for fun. It's still a useful tool, but I always look for secondary verification of anything I find on Wiki that I'm not sure about.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2007, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			I always get a good laugh out of this too: 
 
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			08-17-2007, 12:10 PM
			
			
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			I don't think its fair to say "the CIA altered Wikipedia..." its more, some bored analyst/administrator who works at the CIA decided to have some fun.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2007, 12:13 PM
			
			
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			They had a piece on CBC news last night about Canadian Politicians having their sites edited. Paul Martin had "Canada's worst Prime Minister" on his page and Calgary's own Jason Kenney had his page edited to remove all traces of his opposition to gay marriage and and had a quote added him that mentioned he had been named one of Canada's next 10 great leaders.  
 
Wikiscan releaved both edit had come from Parlimentary computers in Ottawa.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			08-17-2007, 12:14 PM
			
			
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				I don't think its fair to say "the CIA altered Wikipedia..." its more, some bored analyst/administrator who works at the CIA decided to have some fun. 
			
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Looks like they're really working hard   =)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2007, 12:19 PM
			
			
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				Looks like they're really working hard   =) 
			
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meh, secret agents are people too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2007, 12:28 PM
			
			
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			Schills for companies are always trying to edit articles.  About two days ago, someone working for the BBC was trying to remove criticisms of the BBC from the articles related to it. 
 
I even had someone claiming to be an employee of the NHL send me a message stating he wanted to work with me (and everyone else actively involved with the hockey project) on things...   
 
When you are one of the biggest websites in the world, people will take notice, and use it to suit their advantage. 
 
Though LOL @ the CIA vandalizing articles.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2007, 12:49 PM
			
			
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			A few friends and I have an ongoing Wiki-war with our most hated comic book artist/creator of all time. One of us edits it almost every single day, and he changes it back. Its sick, yet fun.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-17-2007, 02:14 PM
			
			
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			Yeah the Globe & Mail had a story yesterday I believe about the same thing happening in the Canadian government. 
"Government computers also edited Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Wikipedia entry 10 times between Aug. 26, 2005, and Aug. 8, 2006. Opposition Leader Stéphane Dion's page was edited four times on Aug. 30, 2004, by someone at a computer traced to the House of Commons, and twice more on Oct. 3, 2006, from a computer inside a Public Works and Government Services office in Gatineau, Que.
 Other pages edited from government equipment include Maher Arar's Wikipedia page, which was edited three times on Feb. 27, 2007, from a computer traced to Public Works and Government Services, and the entry on Pierre Trudeau, which was edited nine times between Oct. 7, 2002, and Feb. 22, 2007, from four different IP addresses."
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			08-17-2007, 04:15 PM
			
			
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			Since when are the IP addresses from government computer open to the public?  
 
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			08-17-2007, 05:00 PM
			
			
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				Since when are the IP addresses from government computer open to the public?  
 
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Unless the route them through an anonymous proxy then you are going to see the IP. I'm sure there are some pretty solid firewalls in place.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-17-2007, 05:15 PM
			
			
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			08-17-2007, 07:13 PM
			
			
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				Unless the route them through an anonymous proxy then you are going to see the IP. I'm sure there are some pretty solid firewalls in place. 
			
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			08-18-2007, 01:27 PM
			
			
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				Unless the route them through an anonymous proxy then you are going to see the IP. I'm sure there are some pretty solid firewalls in place. 
			
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And Wikipedia banned editing through anonymous proxies.  Those IPs get blocked on a regular basis.
 
Montreal City Hall is getting busted as well:   http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...8d626b&k=89118
Even the Vatican got caught.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2007, 01:45 PM
			
			
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			At least you can see a history of all the revisions, if you are interested. And the pissing matches they get into regarding some of those edits. 
 
Wikipedia is far from perfect, but as long as people supply references for their information then it is an easy place to start researching a topic.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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