03-23-2026, 10:13 AM
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Trump was asked this morning to name the Iranian official they were negotiating with. His dumb answer was that, he won’t say because it will get the person killed. He could have just said, “ oh you wouldn’t know him, he’s from Iran.”
Here’s a statement from Iran’s Speaker of parliament.
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03-23-2026, 10:16 PM
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#422
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Well didn't take long. Right after Trump's original 48 hour ultimatum expired and TACO in the morning claiming they had a deal with Iran to open the Strait for market manipulation purposes, Iran now claiming US-Israel has attacked several energy sites.
https://investinglive.com/commoditie...sets-20260324/
https://twitter.com/user/status/2036235416089547260
Iran has announced full retaliation against all power stations in the middle east.
As far as I can tell, this doesn't look like it would be an actual attack on energy sites if the goal was this, but Iran is selling it as such. Iran may be using this as a false flag opportunity.
Last edited by Firebot; 03-23-2026 at 10:19 PM.
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03-23-2026, 11:44 PM
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#423
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Originally Posted by Firebot
Well didn't take long. Right after Trump's original 48 hour ultimatum expired and TACO in the morning claiming they had a deal with Iran to open the Strait for market manipulation purposes, Iran now claiming US-Israel has attacked several energy sites.
https://investinglive.com/commoditie...sets-20260324/
https://twitter.com/user/status/2036235416089547260
Iran has announced full retaliation against all power stations in the middle east.
As far as I can tell, this doesn't look like it would be an actual attack on energy sites if the goal was this, but Iran is selling it as such. Iran may be using this as a false flag opportunity.
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Guess it comes down to whether you believe that Trump will keep his word of the 5 day hold on attacks or the Iranians that Trump broke his promise of holding off for this week.
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03-24-2026, 01:08 AM
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#424
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Guess it comes down to whether you believe that Trump will keep his word of the 5 day hold on attacks or the Iranians that Trump broke his promise of holding off for this week.
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Did Isreal agree to this five day hold?
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03-24-2026, 12:22 PM
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Iran has denied targeting a joint military base of the United States and the United Kingdom on the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia with missiles, dismissing the claim as an “Israeli false flag” attack.
Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei said on Monday that the accusations reflected a pattern of “disinformation” after NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte said the alliance could not confirm Israel’s claim that the projectiles used were Iranian intercontinental ballistic missiles.
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But if Iran was confirmed to be behind the attacks, it would mean that it possesses ballistic missiles with a range of 4,000km (2,485 miles) or more – able to reach as far as the UK capital, London.
Earlier this month, in an interview with the US broadcaster NBC, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said, “We intentionally limited ourselves to below 2,000km [1,242 miles] of range because we don’t want to be felt as a threat by anybody else in the world.”
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Israel’s military chief, Eyal Zamir, claimed that Iran used “a two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 4,000km [2,485 miles]” to target the US-UK base.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/...se-flag-attack
Somebody be lyin' here, and I don't trust any of them. But the oddly specific description by Israel seems like they could provide a flight track if they know so much. Why not do that?
Am I over-estimating military tracking technology in assuming the US at least would have the ability, and do, monitor where ballistic missiles come from?
And the Iranian could have been lying, or could have been true at the time he said it. But after the war started, they got some from Russia to chuck at the island?
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03-24-2026, 12:33 PM
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West has eyes on missile paths
The US and the UK will have had clear indications that Iran was trying to target Diego Garcia. They would have been watching the missiles in flight.
The US Space Force is able to detect every missile launched from Iran from Buckley Space Force Base in Colorado. Last year the BBC was given rare access to film inside the control centre where they can watch the trajectory of any missile fired across the globe.
They use a constellation of satellites from space and powerful radars on the ground - including at RAF Fylingdales in the UK - which can track the missile from launch to target.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly73y5e788o
So, uhm, why not provide the proof and move on? Showing Iran is lying, and more capable of hitting targets country thought safe would be a stronger argument for the IsraelU/S alliance.
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03-24-2026, 12:35 PM
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Release the Epstein files - wait no I mean, release the missile paths!
And then the Epstein files! Or just the missile paths? Or just the Epstein files? Release the Epstein missiles paths!
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03-24-2026, 01:10 PM
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Always follow the money and you'll see what "negotiations" are occuring.
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DWQDBoBgEsw/
Causing global instability, killing innocent people, destroying long standing ally relationships and destroying your own country for more billions.
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03-24-2026, 01:14 PM
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I was watching some videos and reading some news stories about this. Basically what I gathered was that the 4,000 km range isn't that shocking if it was Iran. Although they weren't suspected of having missile specifically designed for that range, the technology they do have can be adapted and modified for that range. The bigger issue is that they are believed to lack the satellite technology to get any kind of accuracy at that range. The real question would be, who would be helping them in that regard. Both China and Russia would be capable of providing that help, which is also why Iran wouldn't want to claim responsibility as protecting their sources would be vital, and they would want to contain the responses to which could be a redline.. I doubt China would put themselves out there like that, but Russia would for sure.
There is also the fact that this war has exposed pretty significant intelligence gaps. They already severely underestimated Iran's capability to produce missiles and the extent of their stockpiles. It wouldn't be too surprising if they also underestimated their tech.
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03-24-2026, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/...se-flag-attack
Somebody be lyin' here, and I don't trust any of them. But the oddly specific description by Israel seems like they could provide a flight track if they know so much. Why not do that?
Am I over-estimating military tracking technology in assuming the US at least would have the ability, and do, monitor where ballistic missiles come from?
And the Iranian could have been lying, or could have been true at the time he said it. But after the war started, they got some from Russia to chuck at the island?
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Answer makes sense once you think how Iran operates.
Iran has missiles far more capable than they want the world to know. Whether they have built them or got Russian made ones is largely immaterial.
Iran runs a highly decentralized military which has its pros and cons and why there was seemingly no logic to the targets at the onset of the war. For instance there was no logic to target an Azerbaijan airport.
But once you realize that the IRGC is designed to run largely without leaders, it starts to make sense why in isolation some attacks occured. Likely a group which had access to longer range ballistic missiles thought it was a cute idea to attack Diego Garcia, not realizing that those missiles are a deep government secret.
This is also why you need to take whatever Iran states with a grain of salt especially considering their ultimate motives, including on nuclear weapons. Yes the Ayatollah had a fatwah against nuclear weapons. Yes Iran was most certainly still a fair bit away from an actual nuclear weapon but even in 2015 it was estimated they could rush to one within 3 months and prior to the agreed 2015 deal Iran was willing to suffer via sanctions to continue its nuclear prospects.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iaea-ch...ce-the-nation/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655
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US experts estimated at the time that if Iran had decided to rush to make a bomb, it would take two to three months until it had enough 90%-enriched uranium to build a nuclear weapon - the so-called "break-out time".
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As for the missiles, to come out half a week later to suddenly deny it ever happened? You also have to also conveniently forget that Iran's own state news reported it as propaganda.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...1v3b6r2zdezrgm
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Iran’s semi-official Mehr news agency said on Saturday that Iran had “fired two ballistic missiles at the military base of the oppressors in Diego Garcia.” It described the move as “a significant step by the Islamic Republic of Iran in threatening the interests of the United States and its allies beyond the borders of West Asia.”
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It's just a secret that wasn't meant to be shown, and someone just realized and is trying a do-over and pretending it never happened. As bad and incompetent the Trump / US administration is, their opponent in Iran are not exactly the most competent.
Last edited by Firebot; 03-24-2026 at 01:52 PM.
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03-24-2026, 01:57 PM
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#431
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I don't think it's a coincidence that roughly around the same time the missiles reached within proximity of Diego Garcia, Russia allegedly offered to stop providing Iran with intelligence if the U.S. did the same with Ukraine. It would make sense that Russia would want to demonstrate that their intelligence was at least useful to Iran.
I also think it would be too risky for Israel to launch such a brazen false flag attack. They rely too much on America and their assets in places like Diego Garcia, and I am sure everything entering and leaving their airspace is accounted for, at least anything thing that reached elevations higher than drones.
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03-24-2026, 04:37 PM
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Trump is so thankful that none of this Iran stuff matters.
The Supreme Court is about to rule that mail in ballots are no longer valid. This will make the mid-terms close enough that he can claim victory.
And most importantly, with the media having a nice juicy war to report on, nobody is asking any more questions about Epstein!
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03-24-2026, 04:53 PM
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From what I understand, it wouldn’t be all mail in ballots. Just ballots that arrive after election day. However, that decision would still cause all kinds of chaos for the mid-terms, considering that there are at least a couple dozen states that allow ballots to be counted post-election day as long as they’re post-marked before that date.
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03-25-2026, 07:52 AM
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03-25-2026, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by direwolf
From what I understand, it wouldn’t be all mail in ballots. Just ballots that arrive after election day. However, that decision would still cause all kinds of chaos for the mid-terms, considering that there are at least a couple dozen states that allow ballots to be counted post-election day as long as they’re post-marked before that date.
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Those are often from military personal over seas.
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03-25-2026, 12:51 PM
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Iran says it is not negotiating and has its own conditions for ending the conflict, including an immediate halt to attacks and payment for war damage, according to a diplomatic source.
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https://www.ms.now/liveblog/iran-live-updates-3-25
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03-25-2026, 01:11 PM
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But I thought Iran sent Trump a present yesterday? Or a "beautiful prize" as he said. I wonder what it was, oh he didn't want to say, it's a secret.
####ing imbecile.
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03-25-2026, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Engine09
But I thought Iran sent Trump a present yesterday? Or a "beautiful prize" as he said. I wonder what it was, oh he didn't want to say, it's a secret.
####ing imbecile.
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The orange embolism to be changing his mind because someone gave him a gift was the only believable thing he has said in this whole ordeal, and even that was a lie it seems lol
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03-25-2026, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MonaTone
The orange embolism to be changing his mind because someone gave him a gift was the only believable thing he has said in this whole ordeal, and even that was a lie it seems lol
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It's believable especially if the "gift" was the unredacted Epstein files that Iranian hackers might have obtained.
It's pretty funny that it has gotten to the point that a president can just say that he received a "gift" worth a lot of money from someone that is directly related to politics, and it's not even worth getting into it anymore. He is probably lying, but lying about doing something corrupt instead of not doing something corrupt is a whole new level of Idiocracy.
Anyway, with the U.S. announcing that they are sending thousands of more military personnel to the ME, it seems pretty obvious that there are no real negotiations going on.
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