03-23-2026, 08:54 AM
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#2781
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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If you have a tie in choices you take size every time.
If you think size could hurt the player you adjust his overall value and look at the other options.
If you have a smallish team you still take the best player available and move the other players to round out the size.
The Flames have only picked in the top five once, I'd hate to see them take any player but the best available with that opportunity.
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03-23-2026, 02:49 PM
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#2782
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Everyone wants them to take the best player, but dies that mean the best overall player or the best player for the Flames? Im sure we all have different ideas of who they best players are.
Im just excited that we'll be getting a really good prospect it'll all work itself out, hopefully we get a home running our first pick, then some gems with all the other draft capital. Im not that big of a fan of packaging multiple picks to move up unless its a top 10 pick. If anything, I hope they find a way to get more picks.
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03-23-2026, 03:23 PM
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#2784
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Truculent!
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The flames have taken high offensive upside for several years now. And seem to have a very good prospect analytics department.
I am certain they will extract awesome value out of any of the players that end up whereever they draft.
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03-23-2026, 04:36 PM
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#2785
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
Everyone wants them to take the best player, but dies that mean the best overall player or the best player for the Flames? Im sure we all have different ideas of who they best players are.
Im just excited that we'll be getting a really good prospect it'll all work itself out, hopefully we get a home running our first pick, then some gems with all the other draft capital. Im not that big of a fan of packaging multiple picks to move up unless its a top 10 pick. If anything, I hope they find a way to get more picks.
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It's BPA, not BPAFF.
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03-23-2026, 04:54 PM
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#2786
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Poe969
Everyone wants them to take the best player, but dies that mean the best overall player or the best player for the Flames? Im sure we all have different ideas of who they best players are.
Im just excited that we'll be getting a really good prospect it'll all work itself out, hopefully we get a home running our first pick, then some gems with all the other draft capital. Im not that big of a fan of packaging multiple picks to move up unless its a top 10 pick. If anything, I hope they find a way to get more picks.
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Agree the best player is a bit, well no actually a lot, pointless.
Yes we have a consensus type of list of the picks but the nuances of every team make it pointless.
Yes i have Stenberg and Mckenna as one and two, however lets say the flames pick one but know that either player wants to sign here? They then take Carels getting a possible number one defencemen and the talking heads roll around going wow bold move by calgary hope they dont regret it. The majority fans blow their top going we passed on a generational winger! Fire everyone! Same old flames!
However on a game by game basis, play by play basis that number one defender is equal to a number one centerr and a great goaltender. Both those wingers would have to end up being two of the top five wingers in the game to have the same game by game impact a number one defender has.
Vaerhoff, Carels, Reid, Smits, Rudolph all have that ceiling.
Long story short this is a great draft if you miss the top two and maybe miss a top end winger you walk away with a top end defender which in my mind carries equal or more value.
Also some wildcards like Villeneuve, Bjork and Suvanto make it a really interesting draft at the top.
Still hope vegas bombs and ends up in the mid teens if it doesn’t win the lottery and the flames could walk out of the first round with Carels,Vaer, or Reid then grab Lawrence or Suvanto or Bjork
High end defender and a top six center prospect is a good way yo leave the first round.
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03-23-2026, 05:27 PM
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#2787
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Fan69
Agree the best player is a bit, well no actually a lot, pointless.
Yes we have a consensus type of list of the picks but the nuances of every team make it pointless.
Yes i have Stenberg and Mckenna as one and two, however lets say the flames pick one but know that either player wants to sign here? They then take Carels getting a possible number one defencemen and the talking heads roll around going wow bold move by calgary hope they dont regret it. The majority fans blow their top going we passed on a generational winger! Fire everyone! Same old flames!
However on a game by game basis, play by play basis that number one defender is equal to a number one centerr and a great goaltender. Both those wingers would have to end up being two of the top five wingers in the game to have the same game by game impact a number one defender has.
Vaerhoff, Carels, Reid, Smits, Rudolph all have that ceiling.
Long story short this is a great draft if you miss the top two and maybe miss a top end winger you walk away with a top end defender which in my mind carries equal or more value.
Also some wildcards like Villeneuve, Bjork and Suvanto make it a really interesting draft at the top.
Still hope vegas bombs and ends up in the mid teens if it doesn’t win the lottery and the flames could walk out of the first round with Carels,Vaer, or Reid then grab Lawrence or Suvanto or Bjork
High end defender and a top six center prospect is a good way yo leave the first round.
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Great explanation. To add to that, I'd say Gridin's progress, as well as the potential in Coronato and Wyttenbach surely has me OK if we miss out on Stenberg and McKenna (not that I want to).
Trust in the scouts.
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03-23-2026, 05:45 PM
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#2788
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Franchise Player
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I'm with Bingo on this one. You take the BPA. If you have too much of one type of thing in your organization, you can rectify that through trades.
Can someone explain the Reid hype to me? He's roughly a point per game player in the CHL as an 18 year old. Carels is more productive as a 17 year old and has the same size. Verhoeff has 20 points in 33 games in NCAA as a 17 year old, and more size than either of them.
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Great explanation. To add to that, I'd say Gridin's progress, as well as the potential in Coronato and Wyttenbach surely has me OK if we miss out on Stenberg and McKenna (not that I want to).
Trust in the scouts.
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Coronato has been noticably worse this year than last. Sometimes these 1-year blips are nothing to worry about, but sometimes they're an indicator of regression. Let's see how/if he bounces back next year.
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03-23-2026, 05:58 PM
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#2789
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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For those wishing for center, Malhotra or Bjorck, at least the Flames ruining the tank would mean they don't have to reach for a center at the 3rd spot.
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03-23-2026, 06:09 PM
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#2790
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
Coronato has been noticably worse this year than last. Sometimes these 1-year blips are nothing to worry about, but sometimes they're an indicator of regression. Let's see how/if he bounces back next year.
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His second season is bad but not Jarome Iginla bad.
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03-23-2026, 06:37 PM
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#2792
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Originally Posted by Fan69
Long story short this is a great draft if you miss the top two and maybe miss a top end winger you walk away with a top end defender which in my mind carries equal or more value.
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Yep. The way this draft is shaping up there's a top two (Sternberg, McKenna), and then 5-6 players with not much separation (Verhoeff, Carels, Reid, Smits, Malhotra). If you're not picking in the top 2, then you certainly do look at position and need. So the Flames might rate RD Reid (and maybe even Verhoeff) a little lower, and LD Carels and Smits a little higher.
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03-23-2026, 06:38 PM
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#2793
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Fire
For those wishing for center, Malhotra or Bjorck, at least the Flames ruining the tank would mean they don't have to reach for a center at the 3rd spot.
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Or they could land McKenna and then use a bunch of assets to move up and get Bjorck too. Might as well dream big.
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03-23-2026, 07:39 PM
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#2794
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Top CHL scorers? Where are the Rucks? What is this list?
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03-23-2026, 08:07 PM
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#2795
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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There are a few teams that might be good targets for picking up an additional 1st round pick.
Carolina - Have the Dallas 1st and then nothing until the San Jose 4th. They might be interested in a move to acquire another pick or two.
Buffalo - Have their own 1st and then nothing until the Edmonton 4th. They too might be interested in a move to acquire another pick or two.
NY Islanders - Have their own 1st and then nothing until their own 4th.
Given the Flames hold four 2nds (two that will be early 2nds) and what will be two early 3rds, options to move up should be there.
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03-23-2026, 08:14 PM
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#2796
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Southside
There are a few teams that might be good targets for picking up an additional 1st round pick.
Carolina - Have the Dallas 1st and then nothing until the San Jose 4th. They might be interested in a move to acquire another pick or two.
Buffalo - Have their own 1st and then nothing until the Edmonton 4th. They too might be interested in a move to acquire another pick or two.
NY Islanders - Have their own 1st and then nothing until their own 4th.
Given the Flames hold four 2nds (two that will be early 2nds) and what will be two early 3rds, options to move up should be there.
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Carolina is notorious for moving down to grab extra picks too
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03-23-2026, 08:15 PM
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#2797
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Franchise Player
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So is Lawrence out of the conversation for top 5 pick? He started well this season, but has regressed point wise. Can’t say I have followed him.
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03-23-2026, 08:17 PM
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#2798
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by D as in David
Top CHL scorers? Where are the Rucks? What is this list?
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The tweet frame clipped it. The Rucks are right at the Rucking top, followed by Klepov and JP Hurlbert.
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03-23-2026, 08:31 PM
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#2799
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
So is Lawrence out of the conversation for top 5 pick? He started well this season, but has regressed point wise. Can’t say I have followed him.
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Most seem to have him between 6 and 12. His transition to college wasn’t incredible although i think it may be somewhat unwarranted. He is one if the youngest players in the draft and playing center. Probably a top six center but not sure i see a real top line player.
A lot if the defenceman have gained traction as the season went on especially Carels.
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03-23-2026, 09:01 PM
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#2800
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Southside
There are a few teams that might be good targets for picking up an additional 1st round pick.
Carolina - Have the Dallas 1st and then nothing until the San Jose 4th. They might be interested in a move to acquire another pick or two.
Buffalo - Have their own 1st and then nothing until the Edmonton 4th. They too might be interested in a move to acquire another pick or two.
NY Islanders - Have their own 1st and then nothing until their own 4th.
Given the Flames hold four 2nds (two that will be early 2nds) and what will be two early 3rds, options to move up should be there.
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Maybe Washington moves the Anaheim 1st (assuming it transfers) to add to their lack of early round picks too.
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