[Trade] Andersson (50% retained) to Vegas for 27 1st, cond 28 2nd, Whitecloud, Wiebe

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by devo22

76 points would be enough for 7th in both divisions in the East. Pacific is just a clownshow this year.

Huge opportunity for the Mammoth to go on a run. I hope to see an Avs-Mammoth conference final.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Their goaltending is pretty sus. I think Hill is still injured but they have no choice but to attempt to play him. It's not Oilers-level bad but bad nonetheless.

[dino7c]

Flames being better than Vegas since the trade is...something

[jroc]

Whitecloud for Ras is very much reminding me of Ference for Brad Stuart.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames being better than Vegas since the trade is...something

For those wondering, here are their records:

CGY: 21G, 7-11-3, 17 pts, .405
VGS: 22G, 6-14-2, 14 pts, .348

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

For those wondering, here are their records:

CGY: 21G, 7-11-3, 17 pts, .405
VGS: 22G, 6-14-2, 14 pts, .348

I will say it now if the vegas pick is in the lottery it will win.

[Shazam]

Secret agent Ras.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I know Pike had an article about Flames should be rooting for Vegas to win the cup because the draft pick value of the picks. Although that assumption is them making it to the playoffs this year. Since the Pacific is so bad this year if they fall out of the playoffs they will probably drop down to the 10th to 13th pick. If it lands in that range the value of the pick alone would be better than a 31st and another late 1st in '28

At this point I am cheering for every Vegas loss possible the rest of the way. I am on the fence if I would be okay with them beating Edmonton in the two match ups they have left.

The best case scenario is they win the cup... But do they really have a shot at doing that? If best case scenario is they win the cup, 2nd best is they miss the playoffs, 3rd best is if they make the playoffs they don't win the division and go out in 1st 2 rounds,

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

The best case scenario is they win the cup... But do they really have a shot at doing that? If best case scenario is they win the cup, 2nd best is they miss the playoffs, 3rd best is if they make the playoffs they don't win the division and go out in 1st 2 rounds,

Not according to the numbers...

Right now they are slotted as the 18th pick. That plus a late 2nd has pretty much the identical value of the 32nd pick plus a late 1st.

If they miss the playoffs, 14OA + late 2nd is worth significantly more than either of the above.

If they miss and win the lottery that is worth WAY more still. In order for the Cup winning strategy to be worth as much, their pick next year would have to be 7OA.

Best scenarios:

1) miss playoffs, win lottery
2) miss playoffs

3) win cup
4) stay where they are

(the bottom two are equivalent, but the cup win has more potential upside)

[Enoch Root]

Also, we currently hold picks 2, 18, 34, 36 and we can do a lot more with that than a scenario where we have: 2, 32, 34, 36

And if 18 becomes 14: 2, 14, 34, 36 really opens up the possibilities

[Robbob]

If Vegas is missing the play offs that means at least one of the Pacific teams is passing them. Which means they will drop to 10 to 12 if Washington, NYI, and philly stay ahead of them on points. That is the one benefit of the Pacific being pathetic.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Robbob

If Vegas is missing the play offs that means at least one of the Pacific teams is passing them. Which means they will drop to 10 to 12 if Washington, NYI, and philly stay ahead of them on points. That is the one benefit of the Pacific being pathetic.

Yeah, the last time I looked, they would have slotted into the 14 spot if bumped, but now they are poised for 11 or 12.

Makes all the numbers above even more compelling for this option.

[Roko]

Need them to keep imploding. Then rasmus goes to UFA and they miss playoffs. Best case scenario

[Saqe]

The Pacific is so bad. The only team that could potentially take a divisional spot from Vegas is LA but they are equally terrible. Unless Cassidy has lost the room and Vegas implodes rest of the year, I don't see any other team in the Pacific taking their spot.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Saqe

The Pacific is so bad. The only team that could potentially take a divisional spot from Vegas is LA but they are equally terrible. Unless Cassidy has lost the room and Vegas implodes rest of the year, I don't see any other team in the Pacific taking their spot.

Yeah honestly don't ever remember seeing playoff race this pathetic.

This is a bunch of bad teams bumbling around to find out who is the least worst.

[Enoch Root]

It can change quickly though - we just need one team to get hot and win a few in a row. And then it'll get spicy.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by Saqe

The Pacific is so bad. The only team that could potentially take a divisional spot from Vegas is LA but they are equally terrible. Unless Cassidy has lost the room and Vegas implodes rest of the year, I don't see any other team in the Pacific taking their spot.

It is frustrating to see Edmonton unlikely to reach Calgary's (not enough) 96 points from last year, still get 2nd in the division.

[Macindoc]

The way things have shaped up since the trade, and given the length and value of their remaining contracts, it seems as though Whitecloud alone might be worth just as much as Andersson as a rental.

[dino7c]

Ras moved to the 3rd pair today (plus PP time)

Beat Dallas though

[jg13]

So Ras goes from first pair in Calgary to bottom pair in Vegas and Whitecloud goes from bottom pair in Vegas to top pair in Calgary?