Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Geraldsh]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business...-says-analyst/



Let’s pull up our bootstraps.

PM Carney is opening lots of opportunities in the near future. You just have to hang on to your bootstraps until your turn comes.

[FlamesAddiction]

It sucks that things are going to get worse before they get better. Carney even said as much months ago.

The situation is almost entirely due to American policies against Canada and not because of current Canadian leadership. You can definitely point blame toward past Canadian governments since the early 1980s though.

[Firebot]

https://nanos.co/liberals-at-record-...dp-11-2-nanos/

Liberals at record high in Nanos Tracking: LPC 47.6, CPC 31.1, NDP 11.2 (Nanos)
2026-03-17Written by Nanos Research
The last party to hit 47 per cent support in the Nanos ballot track was the Poilievre Conservatives for the tracking ending January 10, 2025. The Liberals under Carney are at their all-time high in the Nanos tracking for Liberal support. On the preferred PM tracking Carney is the choice of 56.5 per cent of Canadians while Poilievre trails at 22.0 per cent.

Poilievre and CPC leadership

[Fuzz]

A Liberal majority would be a godsend to the future of the Conservatives at this point. Maybe then they will realize they need to drastically change course, and aim for the centre right. Maybe.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

A Liberal majority would be a godsend to the future of the Conservatives at this point. Maybe then they will realize they need to drastically change course, and aim for the centre right. Maybe.

I wonder if Carney will call an early election. He has his majority and he would be stupid to boot the deplorable yap dog from his position.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I wonder if Carney will call an early election. He has his majority and he would be stupid to boot the deplorable yap dog from his position.

Why though? It seems like the byelections will result in the majority, so there is no real need to run the risks that come with a full campaign?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Slava

Why though? It seems like the byelections will result in the majority, so there is no real need to run the risks that come with a full campaign?

Yeah i guess it's not worth it for an extra 13 months

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

A Liberal majority would be a godsend to the future of the Conservatives at this point. Maybe then they will realize they need to drastically change course, and aim for the centre right. Maybe.

Current strategy of just waiting until everyone hates the Liberals will work at some point. Carney coming in and offsetting most of Trudeau's unpopularity is a pretty rare occurrence.

Its basically what the Liberals and NDP are doing provincially in Ontario - not anything to get more popular, just hoping people start to hate the current government.

[Delthefunky]

Two of my favorite people finally sitting down together for a balanced, neutral discussion -- I can't wait to hear Joe Rogans totally informed views on Canadian politics!. Anyone else going to watch?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

A Liberal majority would be a godsend to the future of the Conservatives at this point. Maybe then they will realize they need to drastically change course, and aim for the centre right. Maybe.

Will they though as they would have to turf a lot of the hardliners. It's pretty clear that they do not align with the majority of Canadians in their current state and it's not like the Liberals under Trudeau were some sort of juggernaut as several elections were ripe for the taking and they just couldn't resonate with enough Canadians.

[Fuzz]

Carney showed changing leadership can change the direction of the party, and that voters aren't so partisan that they can reason out these changes and vote accordingly.


The Conservatives either put on their big boy pants and decide to put forward a party that can govern for Canadians, or they can sit on the sidelines and stand by their principles, for whatever that is worth. I'm not convinced they are smart enough to understand that, but some time to think about that, and not an election, would be their best hope.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Carney showed changing leadership can change the direction of the party, and that voters aren't so partisan that they can reason out these changes and vote accordingly.


The Conservatives either put on their big boy pants and decide to put forward a party that can govern for Canadians, or they can sit on the sidelines and stand by their principles, for whatever that is worth. I'm not convinced they are smart enough to understand that, but some time to think about that, and not an election, would be their best hope.

Think EE's point isn't that the CPC couldn't change their fates by changing their leader.

It's that they won't, or rather can't, until they tear out the crazy.

[Winsor_Pilates]

The podcast we've all been waiting for.
PP on Joe Rogan set to release today.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11737554/...rogan-podcast/

[FlamesAddiction]

The thing with Carney is that not much about his politics really seem to stand out as particularly "conservative" or "liberal". He's a pragmatist that would probably govern the same way no matter what what party he was in.

Recall that Stephen Harper asked him at one point to join the Conservative Party to be finance minister, which he declined because he thought it would be inappropriate to go from his role with the Bank of Canada into elective politics. The Liberals asked him to join the following year and he declined then as well.

I think the fact he joined the Liberals later had more to do with opportunity and conservatives have no real reason not to like him except for the red branding.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The thing with Carney is that not much about his politics really seem to stand out as particularly "conservative" or "liberal". He's a pragmatist that would probably govern the same way no matter what what party he was in.

Carney concerns himself with issues that materially affect most Canadians. That wasn't the case with Trudeau, and it's not the case with Poilievre. Canadians today are overwhelmingly concerned with economic issues, so staying above the fray on culture wars is smart politics.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Carney concerns himself with issues that materially affect most Canadians. That wasn't the case with Trudeau, and it's not the case with Poilievre. Canadians today are overwhelmingly concerned with economic issues, so staying above the fray on culture wars is smart politics.

Very true.

If I was leading the Conservative Party, I would be playing the long game right now. Rather than being adversarial on everything, show support on the core issues than materially impact most Canadians and signify that electing a Conservative candidate doesn't mean changing gears completely, but rather it will keep the governing party honest and accountable. A lot of "small c" conservative voters might not mind a pivot but also definitely don't want the 180 turn the Conservative offer.

[afc wimbledon]

The struggle for the Conservatives in Canada has always been that the loony ****wittery that works for the US right just doesn't play here and never has, I assume they get some funding but also a fair amount of cross over consultation, pollsters and electoral experts coming up from US think tanks and it plays into the beliefs of the extreme right wing up here, the gun loving anti abortionist members that saw Trump and Maga doing well and thought this was their chance, that the tide had turned and nativist Christian ignorance and bigotry was finally coming back

They are utterly unelectable now as much due to the distaste for Trump as anything Poilievre has done, I doubt anyone wants his gig for 5 or more years

[calgarygeologist]

Upcoming budget cuts:

[Fuzz]

I hope the DFO said NICE! before frowning.