Well, one thing is for sure about where Andersson does and doesn't sign - no way he goes to the Oilers as he was giving it to Mangiapane and saying that his jersey was ugly.
Boston would seem like the obvious choice, but then again, seems like things fell apart there and perhaps there are hard feelings.
Does BT recruit him to the Leafs?
Detroit?
CBJ given his ties to the Gaudreaus and some other ex Flames there?
Those are the ones that come to mind for me.
I would be surprised if BT will be calling the shots for the Leafs after the season. That organization needs a complete housecleaning.
Yeah I was lukewarm on this initially but Whitecloud and Wiebe are much better than I expected. And if having Whitecloud facilitated the Weegar trade, then that is a huge plus.
I still don't love that the picks are so far out but other than that, just a great trade so far.
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I had this as break even originally but would move my vote to modest win based on
- I wasn't putting any value against Wiebe. But seems like there could be a legit prospect there
- I also wasn't putting enough value against Whitecloud. He's a better player than I thought. And at some point he'll be flipped for more picks. Minimum 2nd, perhaps more.
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Picks being out a few years on the Kadri and Andersson deals are actually a good thing.
Spaces out the draft selections a bit better and not all your players are needing contracts or hitting pro in the same year.
Basically 2-3 impact players will be turning pro every year for the next 5 years for the Flames.
And if gives you a least a dark horse shot of a good team falling apart.
The Knights are looking soft this year, they've stripped their organization of future assets. It possible that next years unprotected pick could be a high one.
The Avs pick is 2 years away any anything could happen, if some how 2 specific guys become unavailable for a chunk of the Avs season that could suddenly become a high pick.
Best thing in the world would be if the Flames could trade Coleman for a 2030 1st round pick after free agency, it might be a stretch, but because teams discount more distant assets, it might be possible. They are already pick twice in the first round 5 years in a row, that would make it 6, and hopefully by 2028/2029 we are starting to see a team in the playoffs sitting on extra 1st round picks.
So now that it is starting to appear that the 2027 1st has at least a 50/50 chance of being a lottery pick (given how poor of a team Vegas has) and the 2028 pick could be top 40 is this trade getting better?
Well the 2027 pick is still top 10 protected and would move to 2028 (if Vegas doesn't win the cup this year) or 2029 (if they do win this year and we get their 2028 1st instead) if they are bad enough next year.
So we would want to hope they miss the playoffs next year but don't win the lottery for maximum pick value, at least in the short-term.
I voted break even because to me it had what was expected (equivalent of 2 firsts) was met ... and to be honest that expectation was greater than I thought a year earlier and a great result.
But since then the value of the package has increased ...
I had the 1st as a 1st
Whitecloud as a 2nd
The 2nd as a 2nd
Wiebe as a toss in
The two 2nds + a throw in equal late first.
But now I think it's
1st as a 1st
Whitecloud as a 1st (or 2nd +)
The 2nd as a 2nd
Wiebe as a 3rd round pick
This is moving closer to Home Run Win now.
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I don't think it can be discounted the value of the pick. Even next year I don't think they win the division, what was expected to be a late first with a pick value of 12.5 or less is looking more to be valued around 20. That would be the equivalent as a 28 and 32 pick. fascinated to see where this all lands when all is said and done. Might have to send Vegas a thank you card.
Is Rasmus even going to get $6mil next contract? what a mistake.
His next contract is still projected out to be closer to a 9, I just don't think that it will be with Vegas. I think it will be similar to Lindholm, where we thought he would be getting less than 7 after the initial stretch in VAN, but he ended up getting closer to 8 due to his performance in the playoffs.
I wouldn't mind seeing Andersson back in Calgary for anything less than $7.5, if they could combine it with getting some good assets by trading Whitecloud.
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I could see the Flames offering Andersson an attractive salary, but with less term. If he is only seeing 7 year deals in the $7s (or less), he may be willing to pivot and look at a 5 year deal in the 8s. And that would be something the Flames could easily do - bring him back (he's a crowd favorite) and pay him for 4 years (while we are closer to the floor than the ceiling), then trade him again.
And he would only be 34 at the end of the contract, so plenty of room for another one.
