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Old 08-14-2007, 01:39 PM   #21
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Back in the late eighties, I was at a house party in Airdrie. As we cavorted happily, from the hostess' deck, across an alley and between a couple of other homes, you could see a sliver of a darkened house. It was, in fact, the residence where a teenaged kid went nuts and butchered his family with an axe. Parents for sure, not certain about siblings. I believe the family's surname was Ford.

It definitely put a damper on my evening. I wouldn't be able to live in that house, nor would I be able to live in the 'Hat residence in question.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:54 PM   #22
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On a related (not really) note: what is done with grow-op houses when they are discovered? How much renovation is done before being sold off?

They must be cleaned up and then have to meet some kind of city inspection code. There will also be a trailer on the listing. I dont know if it specifically says grow op house, but there is some kind of advisement that is put on the house, I think forever, and when you ask about that advisement, the fact that it was once a grow operation will be listed.
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:02 PM   #23
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Home sellers are instead expected to share details of violent crime or suicide just as they would for defects.
This settles a question I have had for a long time.

About a five minute walk away from my house is a house on Bonaventure Drive which was where a man (a math tutor of a friend of mine who lived across the street from him) hacked up his two children and his wife with an axe in 1998. Every time I walk by there I think about it. There is an older couple who lives there now, I see them gardening out front and what not and I think to myself: do they know? They must know.
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:04 PM   #24
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Holy ... for $240 around here, one can get a 1400sqft condo in a brand new building that's right on the Mississippi River. Hardwood floors, private security, gated access, two garages for each unit. Man ... that kind of price is hard to grasp.
I think $240 would get you a trailer in Red Deer. Or a run down old house in the worst part of town.

How big is Moline? What is the economy like?
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I'm just wondering, who has the claims to the house? Who gets the money after being sold?
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:43 PM   #26
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Houses are expensive, we bought our 2000sq. ft. home for $460,000 which we consider a bargain because now we could sell it for $550,000 ++ what a difference 3-6 months can make.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:05 PM   #27
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Back in the late eighties, I was at a house party in Airdrie. As we cavorted happily, from the hostess' deck, across an alley and between a couple of other homes, you could see a sliver of a darkened house. It was, in fact, the residence where a teenaged kid went nuts and butchered his family with an axe. Parents for sure, not certain about siblings. I believe the family's surname was Ford.

It definitely put a damper on my evening. I wouldn't be able to live in that house, nor would I be able to live in the 'Hat residence in question.
Stephen Ford. And yeah, he bludgeoned his parents to death with an axe. Didn't kill anyone else. That murder was pretty much a local legend for some time. In fact, there had been no murders in Airdrie for about 13 years after that... not until two in one week in 2005.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:35 PM   #28
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I'm just wondering, who has the claims to the house? Who gets the money after being sold?
I would assume the estate of the parents. Presumably, their sole surviving heir is the girl who's now serving time for their murders.

I don't know what happens legally when the heir to an estate is convicted of murdering the source of the estate.
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In the article guys.

The province took official ownership as public trustee on June 21 as the first-degree murder trial of a 13-year-old girl accused in the triple killings was in full swing. She was found guilty July 9.
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Proceeds from the sale will go to Marc Richardson's parents.
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I wouldn't have an issue living there. It's not like the person that killed them would be hanging around all the time.

That being said - 240K for a house that's not even 1100 square feet? Is that normal, or around average, for that area? I about spit water out when I looked at that. 240K here would get someone a mansion.
240000 here won't even buy you a 500 sq ft apartment
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This settles a question I have had for a long time.

About a five minute walk away from my house is a house on Bonaventure Drive which was where a man (a math tutor of a friend of mine who lived across the street from him) hacked up his two children and his wife with an axe in 1998. Every time I walk by there I think about it. There is an older couple who lives there now, I see them gardening out front and what not and I think to myself: do they know? They must know.
That was Ian Gordon, right? Blech, that was horrible. Killed one person, gave a lesson with a corpse in the next room, had lunch, waited for the other kid to come home...
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Not sure I'd want to buy that house, let alone live in it. Call me superstitious but it would give me the creeps.

Back in the early 90's a realtor wanted to show me this house in the SW end of Calgary. On the way there I asked him why the list price was so low. He replied that the owner had comitted suicide by shooting himself with a shot gun in the basement. We get there and there's a couple standing on the front lawn with the wife woofing her cookies. They had just been told why the listing price was so low.

Anyhoo I decided to take a look at the house. I headed to the basement where the suicide took place and felt a very cold chill. I swear I could feel a presence in the room. Well, that was enough for me. Told the realtor I wasn't interested anymore. IIRC it took 5 months to sell that house.
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I think $240 would get you a trailer in Red Deer. Or a run down old house in the worst part of town.

How big is Moline? What is the economy like?
Moline is around 50K people. The Quad City area is probably around 300,000. The economy is very good, unless there's some problem I don't know of. The house we bought a few months ago is two stories, three bedrooms, 1.5 bathrooms, full basement(half finished into a rec room/bar), full attic, fenced yard, good neighborhood, and it was under 90K. This is a pretty general idea of what 250K would buy you in the Quad City area
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That was Ian Gordon, right? Blech, that was horrible. Killed one person, gave a lesson with a corpse in the next room, had lunch, waited for the other kid to come home...
Yep, that's the one.
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This settles a question I have had for a long time.

About a five minute walk away from my house is a house on Bonaventure Drive which was where a man (a math tutor of a friend of mine who lived across the street from him) hacked up his two children and his wife with an axe in 1998. Every time I walk by there I think about it. There is an older couple who lives there now, I see them gardening out front and what not and I think to myself: do they know? They must know.
My wife at the time talked business (investments) to him an hour before he did this, something very wrong happened when he got home for him to "snap" like that..very crazy.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:26 PM   #36
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Some feller shot and killed his wife in a big mansion out in Springbank back in the late eighties. Next door neighbour was Lanny McDonald (I'm pretty sure he testified during the trial). Long story short, some doctor ended up buying the place later, and my father and I were involved in the renos. Didn't bother me at all being in the house. Even sanded out and refinished the bullethole on the oak fireplace mantle.

Lanny had a big ol' friendly English Sheepdog at the time who'd wander over and keep us company. To me, that was a bigger "Brush With Celebrity."
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:38 PM   #37
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My wife at the time talked business (investments) to him an hour before he did this, something very wrong happened when he got home for him to "snap" like that..very crazy.
Some bad financial advice, perhaps?

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