[Rumour] Habs circle back on Kadri. Laine to Calgary?

[The EBUG's EBUG]

Originally Posted by united

Montreal-based reporters insist the Flames/Flames ownership need to do more to retain. Very authentic and transparent.

Why are we so sure they're lying? Would this really be a shock? Sure they have retained in the past but it's also pretty safe to assume there's some heartburn for ownership to do so.

[YyjFlames]

I don't get Montreal pushing for retention, especially if Flames are taking on Laine. They've got a ton of cap coming off the books in the next two years. They can fit Kadri in no problem.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Just take bad money back on a smaller contract... no need to retain. I'm also a bit confused as to why ownership is against retention... we aren't near the cap, they've routinely spent to the cap so not sure why the wallet is so tight right now... and we're unlikely to need to retention slots moving forward if Kadri is traded, because we've essentially cleared out any players that would need it, except maybe Coleman, but his cap hit shouldn't be prohibitive to other teams.

Its all BS, Flames will retain but not for free. They aren't going to retain and then also give a bargain price.

nor should they

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I expect with no RS the returns will not be great, and we will be taking back players that are not exciting.

Laine, Dach, Xhekaj 2nd Mtl 2026 and 3rd Mtl 2027

for

Kadri and Pachal or Hanley

That is HORRIBLE value.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Can't they just send Anderson back to balance the books and pony up on futures?

Bonus is people would only have to delete one S from their jerseys!

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by aiy_yah

Late to this thread and only got through 1st 60 or so posts, but out of the box thinking to make salary work. What if Habs dump Danault's salary as part of Kadri trade?

Can't imagine they view him as a dump after paying a 2nd to get him

[Matty81]

It doesn't make any sense that the gms would even be talking this late in the day if they don't have a common understanding on retention of bad salary being the basis of the deal

[topfiverecords]

Habs have the summer to figure out their cap next year. Not our problem.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Habs have the summer to figure out their cap next year. Not our problem.

It is a problem they may not want to take on

[FusionX]

The longer this takes... the more difficult it will be to move Coleman as well given uncertainty around retention.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Just take bad money back on a smaller contract... no need to retain. I'm also a bit confused as to why ownership is against retention... we aren't near the cap, they've routinely spent to the cap so not sure why the wallet is so tight right now... and we're unlikely to need to retention slots moving forward if Kadri is traded, because we've essentially cleared out any players that would need it, except maybe Coleman, but his cap hit shouldn't be prohibitive to other teams.

Read back a few pages ...

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Matty81

It doesn't make any sense that the gms would even be talking this late in the day if they don't have a common understanding on retention of bad salary being the basis of the deal

My gut is those Habs beat reporters are going on old information.

If Flames and Habs reengaged here it's because something changed on either the retention or return front.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by FusionX

The longer this takes... the more difficult it will be to move Coleman as well given uncertainty around retention.

With the lack of smoke I am guessing Coleman is staying

[dino7c]

Most of these "bad contracts" coming back don't have 3 years left

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Matty81

It doesn't make any sense that the gms would even be talking this late in the day if they don't have a common understanding on retention of bad salary being the basis of the deal

Posturing. Hoping the other side bends to your ask closer to the deadline

[dammage79]

I think this is a game of chicken, times winding down and we are gonna see who blinks first, will the Flames capitulate and retain without value coming back or will the Habs up their offer...

37 minutes to go.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Read back a few pages ...

I'm trying to work and keep abreast of the trade information! Can you let me know what I've missed?

[The EBUG's EBUG]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

My gut is those Habs beat reporters are going on old information.

If Flames and Habs reengaged here it's because something changed on either the retention or return front.

Might just be a game of chicken. Agreement in principle is probably there contingent on the Flames ownership retaining.

Habs might have reengaged to say "lol 40 mins left, you gonna fold and take some money back?"

[Jason14h]

We need more Kadris not less

[CroCop]

Feels like this is gonna be too complicated to complete before the deadline