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Old 03-04-2026, 10:19 AM   #30301
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For all we know, Dreger is doing the Flames (and his cousin Nonis) a solid by saying there are good offers tendered, in an effort to increase the actual offers (if any!) for Kadri.


Also, what constitutes a good offer? He was 'blown away' by LA's offer for Andersson, but wasn't it less than what Conroy ended up trading Andersson to Vegas for?


There is a LOT of angst in people here for things that we don't KNOW squat about. You think you know, but we don't know. Assumptions and rumours do not equal facts. It isn't like there have been all of these big deals happening and Conroy is missing the boat here.


I am still firmly in the assumption that Kadri is not the first choice for all (or at least, most) teams. They are still going to wait and see about Trochek and potentially ROR at least. I am sure with Thomas suddenly being rumoured to be available made some teams pause on Kadri to talk to the Blues.


Conroy has no choice but wait for the "Plan As and Plan Bs" to move first. I don't think the market is very robust for Kadri anyway.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:23 AM   #30302
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For all we know, Dreger is doing the Flames (and his cousin Nonis) a solid by saying there are good offers tendered, in an effort to increase the actual offers (if any!) for Kadri.


Also, what constitutes a good offer? He was 'blown away' by LA's offer for Andersson, but wasn't it less than what Conroy ended up trading Andersson to Vegas for?


There is a LOT of angst in people here for things that we don't KNOW squat about. You think you know, but we don't know. Assumptions and rumours do not equal facts. It isn't like there have been all of these big deals happening and Conroy is missing the boat here.


I am still firmly in the assumption that Kadri is not the first choice for all (or at least, most) teams. They are still going to wait and see about Trochek and potentially ROR at least. I am sure with Thomas suddenly being rumoured to be available made some teams pause on Kadri to talk to the Blues.


Conroy has no choice but wait for the "Plan As and Plan Bs" to move first. I don't think the market is very robust for Kadri anyway.
In addition, it wasn’t long ago that many posters were feeling like Kadri was never going to be tradable. Not only does he seem tradable, the team may get assets in return whether it’s this deadline or the summer or next year it seems inevitable that he is traded.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:23 AM   #30303
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They are both aging assets. Kadri was worth more last year than this year. And he will be worth less next year.
Given that Kadri stated openly last season that he intended to stay in Calgary, with his NMC he was untradeable. So no, he wasn't worth more then. And with the amount remaining on his contract, there's no way of knowing whether he might be worth more in the offseason, because more teams will be in the bidding for him at that time, offsetting the fact that he will be available for one less playoff season.

Personally, I was disappointed when I saw that the Flames retained on Andersson, because that meant that it was unlikely that they would be able to trade both Kadri and Coleman at the TDL.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:24 AM   #30304
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It's a total failure. When you float a guy out there for so long that they move their family out of town, or another guy says he wants out (NOW) and then don't make a deal? That's a #### up of epic proportions. You've taken two serviceable and committed veterans and have driven them to wanting out of town and away from the team.

There's no spinning this. Coleman and Kadri both now want out and this was (rightly) created by the team management. You started down this avenue, now finish it because the rest of the players are watching how these guys are being treated and it will determine their future commitment to the club and the reputation of the team and how it treats its players. Conroy ####ed up the Markstrom situation in a similar fashion, not getting the trade done in the window expected and alienating the player. That ultimately worked out for the team, but when the same things happen with Coleman and Kadri, that becomes a trend and how a reputation is earned. So yes, I think this is a total failure if those players aren't moved as expected.
Coleman didn't move his family out of town, they stayed at their home in Dallas because his wife just gave birth and they figured she would have more support in Dallas than in Calgary, and yes the possibility of being traded is also there. Both those players are pros and understand the situation and will continue to be good soldiers for the Flames till they aren't with the Flames anymore. I don't think either situation is or will get untenable. Everything that is out there is how good and honest Conroy is with communicating with the players.

Everything you have said in your post is made up and over exaggerated to prove some sort of point on your end, that's your own narrative.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:26 AM   #30305
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At this point with all the youngsters knocking at the door and needing to play in the NHL to gain experience, grow their game just take the best offers and move on. Coleman and Kahdri are expecting to move and are mentally prepared for this so it’s really time for everyone to move on. You can’t hit a home run every time you go up to bat. I think it’s best for the team to move on now and Conroy can take any reasonable pics and be happy.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:26 AM   #30306
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I'm pretty certain there are/were "good" offers for Kadri going back a few weeks.
The problem is that they're all contingent on retention, and the vibe I'm getting is that CGY didn't want to explore that (yet maybe?) and so they waited and now those teams could have pulled offers.

I very much think that COL is still looking to make it work.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:28 AM   #30307
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They are both aging assets. Kadri was worth more last year than this year. And he will be worth less next year.
Both are worth less if the team trading for them has to take on the full contract. You can only retain on one at this deadline, so you will only get to maximize the value on one of Coleman or Kadri at this deadline.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:28 AM   #30308
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That's the nature of markets. The longer you wait and the more sellers that enter or exit the market the market shifts and shifts quickly. Calgary owned the market for the longest time and I think Conroy felt they would always own the market, right up to the deadline. I think he navel gazed a bit and didn't keep an eye on the standings. As a result other teams looked at where they were in the standings and whether they wanted to push for the mushy middle and made smart decisions to take advantage of the seller's market. Unfortunately, multiple teams with great assets entered the market at the exact same time and that dramatically shifted the market to where it became a buyers market because of the quality assets available.



To me, it appears he waited too long. He should have got this done before the Olympic break and not allowed other teams that period to think and strategize. That allowed multiple teams to shift their commitment to the season and enter the marketplace with their better assets, devaluing ours and making deals less likely to happen. I think he over-played his hand. Hopefully that is wrong and he manages to move out a number of players for good assets, but there are just so many more options out there now that teams have more choice and can probably get better returns for less.
How can we make these ridiculous statements when you are not even in the same room as CC?

It does not appear he waited too long. There are buyers who just bought, and it's a seller's market right now. McCarron for a 2nd?? Smith for a 3rd? Come on now. Make the contending teams pony up. Their picks are late and the prospects they're giving up aren't even becoming impact players (if they do) until a few a years from now. Conroy is doing exactly what he should be doing right now.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:30 AM   #30309
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Good **** I am glad some of you are not GM of this team.
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Looking at the TSN top 50 trade bait list. Pretty underwhelming. Wouldn’t be surprised if the trade deadline is pretty quiet.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:30 AM   #30311
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I'm sure there's a lot going on between the people who make the decisions, and we aren't exactly first priority in terms of who gets told what's going on. We have this happen at work a lot where we can have a lot of things happening as we near a deadline. I don't always have time to make sure everyone knows everything, so there's always a lot of people who only get bits of information - and it can quickly become outdated.

There's not much point in hand wringing, you just have to trust that the people in charge do the right thing. It's fine to judge on the end results after the deadline passes, but up until that point everything is just noise. It's not like the GMs have some obligation to make sure we're privy to everything - they're too busy trying to get done what's best for their team. Might mean trades, might not. We can judge on Saturday.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:32 AM   #30312
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PS I am not saying we are adrift, I am just pushing the same narrative you've pushed in opposite. It's just funny to watch the guns fire either way. Less convinced than ever than anyone knows anything at all.
What narrative am I pushing?

I think you'll find I'm pretty even keeled and don't assume anything.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:32 AM   #30313
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Sure, but then the opposite (trading some people means we are in a rebuild!!!) is also a dumb position.
Trading players generally means you are in a rebuild.

Trading many players means you're definitely in a rebuild.

You're still saying they're not rebuilding?
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LOL ... no!

It means they made a decision that the asset value will be higher in the summer or at next year's trade deadline than what they saw this week.

Period.
...and then when nothing is done in the summer or at next year's deadline, it will be for a different but even more wise-byond-us reasaon!

Some folks just want the Flames to do whatever the Flames will do, and will happily cheer along at whatever the result. 40 years of futility be damned.
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To me that's Too optimistic that that organization can never make a mistake.

If they thought the offers were good enough to even throw Coleman and Kadri into the trade mill, but then can't generate a good enough market to actually move them, then it means they didn't assess the situation correctly.

This is different than Thomas who is 26 and has lots of term in the prime of his career left.

Kadri and Coleman are not going to get a better return as they continue to get older.
Have never suggested the bolded.

In fact twice in the last two days I've said they may have missed the market or over priced their players.

But I'm not going to assume that based on nothing. What's the point?
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To equate this to Markstrom is tough. Yeah his name was out there but I am pretty sure it was Fitzgerald from NJ that really fumbled that one.
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:35 AM   #30317
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But there is nothing concrete to back that up. It's only conjecture and without having those offers in writing (in triplicate and notarized) there is no proof this was the case. Don't you know that you need to have paperwork to prove anything, and if you don't have that, it didn't happen.

Don't need it in paper.

But hoping for a better source than you just making stuff up.

Why would anyone assume mistakes were made without any actual information suggesting that was the case?

What's the point?
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Old 03-04-2026, 10:39 AM   #30318
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Who is the other retained slot other than Markstrom right now? I can't remember

Was it Andersson?
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In think Both of Kadri and Coleman are at peak value in terms of trade, right now. Won't be any more valuable heading into the offseason or next deadline.
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We really need a trade so there's something to actually talk about. Getting dizzy from the conversation going in circles, lol.
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