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HOZ · 08-13-2007, 06:15 AM

Satan a.k.a. Karl Rove says

"There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family," he said.
He said he expected Mr Bush's current poor ratings to improve, and that conditions in Iraq would get better as the military surge continued. A Republican had a good chance of winning the 2008 presidential election, he said, because Democrats would choose the "fatally flawed" Hillary Clinton as their candidate.

Oh and he resigns

longsuffering · 08-13-2007, 08:16 AM

Rumour has it that he wanted to be at the head of the line for a Presidential pardon. Makes sense to beat the rush.

Cowperson · 08-13-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HOZ

Satan a.k.a. Karl Rove says

"There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family," he said.
He said he expected Mr Bush's current poor ratings to improve, and that conditions in Iraq would get better as the military surge continued. A Republican had a good chance of winning the 2008 presidential election, he said, because Democrats would choose the "fatally flawed" Hillary Clinton as their candidate.

Oh and he resigns

He made "winning at all costs" seem like a bad thing.

Cowperson

Calgaryborn · 08-13-2007, 09:27 AM

The Anti-christ isn't gone. He just freed himself up to help some lucky Republican win the 2008 election.

I honestly think the hatred of Rove has everything to do with envy. He is the best strategist the Republicans have. Far better than anyone the Democrats can come up with. I was listening to some left leaning commentary this morning and she suggested that Rove and Bush have had a falling out. She sighted the lack of communication(E-mails,memos,ect.) in the last year between their offices. Me I think they've gotten tired of Congressional investigations interfering with the running of the government.

RougeUnderoos · 08-13-2007, 09:43 AM

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Me I think they've gotten tired of Congressional investigations interfering with the running of the government.

Oh for sure and it's a real shame. It's downright undemocratic (delicious irony) how some people believe the President and his cronies should be accountable for what they do, and even investigated for the crimes they commit.

Calgaryborn · 08-13-2007, 10:09 AM

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Oh for sure and it's a real shame. It's downright undemocratic (delicious irony) how some people believe the President and his cronies should be accountable for what they do, and even investigated for the crimes they commit.

I once worked on a danger clearing contract for B.C. Hydro. The Hydro inspector had a hate on for the little company I was working for at the time so he sat in his truck everyday/all day watching me work. His hope of course was that he could find a safety infraction in order to shut us down. Even if his low opinion of the company was right-on I had a perfect safety record and several years experience. My boss eventually complained to Hydro about this guys treatment of me and my crew. He was taken off the contract and given different responsibilities. Congress's behavior since the democrats won a majority has been akin to that hydro inspectors. Unfortunately there is no one to stop congress until the next election cycle. There is good reasons why this Congress has a lower approval rating then the President.

RougeUnderoos · 08-13-2007, 10:48 AM

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I once worked on a danger clearing contract for B.C. Hydro. The Hydro inspector had a hate on for the little company I was working for at the time so he sat in his truck everyday/all day watching me work. His hope of course was that he could find a safety infraction in order to shut us down. Even if his low opinion of the company was right-on I had a perfect safety record and several years experience. My boss eventually complained to Hydro about this guys treatment of me and my crew. He was taken off the contract and given different responsibilities. Congress's behavior since the democrats won a majority has been akin to that hydro inspectors. Unfortunately there is no one to stop congress until the next election cycle. There is good reasons why this Congress has a lower approval rating then the President.

If you had a disastrous safety record and years of incompetent performance on your record, do you think that guy would have had a reason to watch you? Because that's what the current administration has, if we want to use this analogy.

Azure · 08-13-2007, 11:32 AM

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If you had a disastrous safety record and years of incompetent performance on your record, do you think that guy would have had a reason to watch you? Because that's what the current administration has, if we want to use this analogy.

Perhaps if your approval rating is lower than the Presidents...you should start worrying about fixing THAT, instead of ignoring it because you want to catch the President at fault.

But than again...that is the nature of US politics...and nothing is going to change it.

Hemi-Cuda · 08-13-2007, 01:13 PM

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Perhaps if your approval rating is lower than the Presidents...you should start worrying about fixing THAT, instead of ignoring it because you want to catch the President at fault.

But than again...that is the nature of US politics...and nothing is going to change it.

yep, as much as Bush sucks (and i mean SUCKS, as in one of the worst presidents of all time) the congress is pretty bad too. it's not about trying to improve your approval rating, it's just trying to get the public to hate the other guy more

HOZ · 08-13-2007, 05:37 PM

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yep, as much as Bush sucks (and i mean SUCKS, as in one of the worst presidents of all time) the congress is pretty bad too. it's not about trying to improve your approval rating, it's just trying to get the public to hate the other guy more

Sorry, but Carter hold the [MOD edit- worst] President Chair. By far too! Now he is working on the Worst Ex-president title

rubecube · 08-13-2007, 05:46 PM

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Now he is working on the Worst Ex-president title

Yeah, what kind of a builds homes for underpriviledged families? Only a pinko would receive one of the world's most prestigious awards for acts of peace and benevolence towards his fellow man.

Calgaryborn · 08-13-2007, 05:55 PM

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If you had a disastrous safety record and years of incompetent performance on your record, do you think that guy would have had a reason to watch you? Because that's what the current administration has, if we want to use this analogy.

Karl Rove has a perfect safety record. The Democrats have nothing on him or else he would be in jail. Their hearings are nothing more than fishing expeditions and political performances. At least my Hydro inspector didn't go as far as accusing me of things he couldn't prove. If Karl Rove was a private citizen and these weren't congressional hearings he could have made a fortune on libel lawsuits. In any case, the American people have grown tired of congress staging political shows instead of getting things done. They are realizing a new inconvenient truth. To undermined your President is to undermined your country.

Azure · 08-13-2007, 05:56 PM

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yep, as much as Bush sucks (and i mean SUCKS, as in one of the worst presidents of all time) the congress is pretty bad too. it's not about trying to improve your approval rating, it's just trying to get the public to hate the other guy more

I agree partly with your first point....although I do think it is a bit early to judge him as the worst President of all time. The affect he REALLY had on the US, the ME, and the rest of the world will truly be felt 20 years from now.

Calgaryborn · 08-13-2007, 06:03 PM

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Yeah, what kind of a builds homes for underpriviledged families? Only a pinko would receive one of the world's most prestigious awards for acts of peace and benevolence towards his fellow man.

Lets not forget his work bolstering terrorist regimes and other enemies of America. Or how about his continual assertion that Florida election results were rigged in 2000 after a bi-partisan congressional committee couldn't find any such evidence.

CaramonLS · 08-13-2007, 06:19 PM

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Lets not forget his work bolstering terrorist regimes and other enemies of America.

...Specifically?

Hemi-Cuda · 08-13-2007, 06:21 PM

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Karl Rove has a perfect safety record. The Democrats have nothing on him or else he would be in jail. Their hearings are nothing more than fishing expeditions and political performances. At least my Hydro inspector didn't go as far as accusing me of things he couldn't prove. If Karl Rove was a private citizen and these weren't congressional hearings he could have made a fortune on libel lawsuits. In any case, the American people have grown tired of congress staging political shows instead of getting things done. They are realizing a new inconvenient truth. To undermined your President is to undermined your country.

that is such crap, and that type of attitude is completely against what the American founding fathers preached. there is a reason that free speech is protected within the US constitution, because any citizen should have a right to criticize their government. those who criticize bush are patriots, because they care for their country and are upset with the direction it is taking. your stance is one of dictatorship, not of democracy

Calgaryborn · 08-13-2007, 06:24 PM

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...Specifically?

Arafat

rubecube · 08-13-2007, 06:43 PM

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Lets not forget his work bolstering terrorist regimes and other enemies of America. Or how about his continual assertion that Florida election results were rigged in 2000 after a bi-partisan congressional committee couldn't find any such evidence.

Thanks, Mr. Hannity. Obviously if congress couldn't find any evidence, there was no "conspiracy" (just ask the Warren Commission). There is evidence to prove something fishy happened and Carter isn't the only one who thinks so.

Insert the obligatory "You're a pinko, leftist, satanic, flag-burning baby-killer" reply below.

Calgaryborn · 08-13-2007, 06:52 PM

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that is such crap, and that type of attitude is completely against what the American founding fathers preached. there is a reason that free speech is protected within the US constitution, because any citizen should have a right to criticize their government. those who criticize bush are patriots, because they care for their country and are upset with the direction it is taking. your stance is one of dictatorship, not of democracy

Where have I suggested limiting free speech or not being patriotic if you criticize President Bushes policies. Free speech doesn't undermine a President. Focusing your time and energy on finding mud to sling at your President instead of seeking common ground in order to improve America does. Unjustly subpoena the Presidents private E-mails in the faint hope of finding dirt undermines a persons ability to have candid conversations and explore options with his advisers. Public ally declaring defeat in earshot of your countries enemies undermines the war. Publicly asking the Pentagon for there plans to with drawl from Iraq undermines the President. The list is endless.

Calgaryborn · 08-13-2007, 07:05 PM

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Thanks, Mr. Hannity. Obviously if congress couldn't find any evidence, there was no "conspiracy" (just ask the Warren Commission). There is evidence to prove something fishy happened and Carter isn't the only one who thinks so.

Insert the obligatory "You're a pinko, leftist, satanic, flag-burning baby-killer" reply below.

And how does making the unsupported accusation help your country? It doesn't. When the Supreme Court ruled; the election was over. All a true statesman could do is lobby for improvements to the system at that point. Carter chose a lower road and a shameful one for an ex-president.

Carter failure to mention the disenfranchised military votes and the thousands of New Yorkers who voted in Florida as well as home is also telling. An ex-President should be concerned for every bodies votes not just his parties.