Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-03-2026, 09:10 PM   #21
Macindoc
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stampede2TheCup View Post
People are snarky because of how GMs are complaining about the loophole being closed after being warned. The fact GMs had plans before the rule change in September is ridiculous and shows how blatantly the system was abused.

Yes, we like trades. Yes we want buyers for Kadri. But people also disliked the blatant abuse of the cap system in the playoffs. It’s possible to hold both points of view. It’s even possible to be snarky about GMs and wish this had happened one year later.

Having this change is much better for the parity of the league going forward. The cap rising so much is potentially starting to create more of a gap between richer teams and the rest.
But it’s still not ideal for parity. All the Oilers have to do is put Nurse and Bouchard on LTIR during the regular season, replace them with real defencemen and some depth forwards with the cap relief, then continue to sit them during the playoffs.
Macindoc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 09:15 PM   #22
Jay Random
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
But it’s still not ideal for parity. All the Oilers have to do is put Nurse and Bouchard on LTIR during the regular season, replace them with real defencemen and some depth forwards with the cap relief, then continue to sit them during the playoffs.
Unless a player is medically certified to be unable to play for the entire season including playoffs, putting him on LTIR only gives you cap relief equal to the league average salary. The Oilers would only get about $8 million in LTIR space for both those players – and that's assuming they both consented not to play for an entire year, which I very much doubt.

Then they have to come up with assets from somewhere to trade for the replacement players. They're already trading away 2029 picks, for Pete's sake. There isn't much more in that well.

All that work, just to shore up a team that is below average right now, would not affect league parity in the slightest.
__________________
WARNING: The preceding message may not have been processed in a sarcasm-free facility.

‘You see in Calgary, [Ryan] Huska is no joke. It’s good. He’s really set on a specific model defensively. If you can be reliable, you have the freedom to play offence.’
—Ethan Wyttenbach
Jay Random is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 09:19 PM   #23
McG
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Rebiggling, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
But it’s still not ideal for parity. All the Oilers have to do is put Nurse and Bouchard on LTIR during the regular season, replace them with real defencemen and some depth forwards with the cap relief, then continue to sit them during the playoffs.
I don’t know if clueless counts for LTIR for those two.
__________________
Franchise > Team > Player

Future historians will celebrate June 24, 2024 as the date when the timeline corrected itself.
McG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 09:21 PM   #24
TrentCrimmIndependent
Franchise Player
 
TrentCrimmIndependent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
Exp:
Default

Haha, cry us a river.

You guys handed out those contracts that put your team in a crunch.

Maybe GM better?
TrentCrimmIndependent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 09:31 PM   #25
Macindoc
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random View Post
Unless a player is medically certified to be unable to play for the entire season including playoffs, putting him on LTIR only gives you cap relief equal to the league average salary. The Oilers would only get about $8 million in LTIR space for both those players – and that's assuming they both consented not to play for an entire year, which I very much doubt.

Then they have to come up with assets from somewhere to trade for the replacement players. They're already trading away 2029 picks, for Pete's sake. There isn't much more in that well.

All that work, just to shore up a team that is below average right now, would not affect league parity in the slightest.
Is this new? I thought LTIR gave you cap relief up to a player’s cap hit. And it would be pretty easy to argue that any player has injuries at any given time.

But yes, the Oilers are running out of assets to trade. Just trying to use a humorous example. Because E=NG in any thread.
Macindoc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 09:38 PM   #26
PaperBagger'14
Franchise Player
 
PaperBagger'14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
Exp:
Default

“ Teams made plans and then, in September, the league changes the rules. It's bush league," one NHL team executive told ESPN. "All of a sudden, if you're one of these teams that's been kind of planning a certain way, they just changed the rules on you."

Teams made plans, and then when rules changed 6 months ago they failed to adapt.

Sort of like seeing a psychics convention cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances
PaperBagger'14 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to PaperBagger'14 For This Useful Post:
Old 03-03-2026, 09:42 PM   #27
Reign of Fire
First Line Centre
 
Reign of Fire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
Exp:
Default

It’s definitely Vegas and it’s cause Stone got hurt





Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
"There are no asterisks in this life, only scoreboards." - Ari Gold

12 13 14 2 34
Reign of Fire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 09:44 PM   #28
Jay Random
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
Is this new? I thought LTIR gave you cap relief up to a player’s cap hit. And it would be pretty easy to argue that any player has injuries at any given time.
Yup. One of the new rules they brought in is that your LTIR relief for any one player is capped at the league average salary, unless the player is out for the entire season. If so, the old rule applies and you get full relief.
__________________
WARNING: The preceding message may not have been processed in a sarcasm-free facility.

‘You see in Calgary, [Ryan] Huska is no joke. It’s good. He’s really set on a specific model defensively. If you can be reliable, you have the freedom to play offence.’
—Ethan Wyttenbach
Jay Random is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 09:59 PM   #29
Stampede2TheCup
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Stampede2TheCup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: lower mainland
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
But it’s still not ideal for parity. All the Oilers have to do is put Nurse and Bouchard on LTIR during the regular season, replace them with real defencemen and some depth forwards with the cap relief, then continue to sit them during the playoffs.
Lol that’s funny, I’d love to see it happen because the Oilers would only be guaranteed to make things worse for themselves.

I said it was better for parity and I still believe so.
__________________
.
The toilet seat may go up and down, but the #### never gets flushed. - Enoch Root
Stampede2TheCup is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 10:04 PM   #30
Macindoc
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random View Post
Yup. One of the new rules they brought in is that your LTIR relief for any one player is capped at the league average salary, unless the player is out for the entire season. If so, the old rule applies and you get full relief.
So will Nurse be injured for the full 2026-2027 season then? And Bouchard, and Jarry, and Mangiapane? Might be the Oilers' only hope for success while Mavi is still with them.
Macindoc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 11:39 PM   #31
Jay Random
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
So will Nurse be injured for the full 2026-2027 season then? And Bouchard, and Jarry, and Mangiapane? Might be the Oilers' only hope for success while Mavi is still with them.
They still have to find the players to replace them with, and the free agent market this summer looks pretty bad.
__________________
WARNING: The preceding message may not have been processed in a sarcasm-free facility.

‘You see in Calgary, [Ryan] Huska is no joke. It’s good. He’s really set on a specific model defensively. If you can be reliable, you have the freedom to play offence.’
—Ethan Wyttenbach
Jay Random is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2026, 11:43 PM   #32
SuperMatt18
Franchise Player
 
SuperMatt18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

It's also why GMs kind of screwed themselves.

All the rule changes made it make way more sense to be more proactive with your trades and cap managment this year. Accrual has very little value unless you have bad contracts you are just going to sit in the playoffs anyways.

There were some teams where it made way more sense to be proactive to try to get players in early to get adjusted and help the team longer, and most teams still just decided to wait until the deadline still.
SuperMatt18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2026, 01:37 AM   #33
The Fonz
Our Jessica Fletcher
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Exp:
Default

The Fonz is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to The Fonz For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:32 PM.

Calgary Flames
2025-26






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy