Daylight Saving Time

[The Yen Man]

I'd be on board with permanent DST to keep the longer summer evenings. I don't really care about being darker in the morning in the winter. It means we don't get dark till 6pm, which would also be nice as well.

[marsplasticeraser]

In the UK one reason for daylight savings was it was shown that darkness was very highly correlated with car accidents involving children walking to school in the dark. Anybody who drives around schools in Dec/Jan in Calgary knows how hard it can be to see children crossing the road.

As it is we only have 3-4 weeks of mornings when it's still dark out when I take my kids to school. For those in BC, the hour change will make a lot more dark mornings (Maybe 10 weeks?)

Hopefully we don't see an increase in accidents involving children walking to school in BC from this.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Long summer nights are nice, but winter mornings would become very dark, and the sun wouldn't rise until 9:39 in Calgary. That's not natural. There are some significant concerns around health, sleep, and even the safety of kids walking to school.

I agree. I would prefer we stay on standard time all year.

The sunrise times in winter, if we stay on Daylight time all year long would begin 9:18 on December 1, then 9:14 on January 31, peaking at 9:38 and 9:39 for several weeks from December 22 to January 7.

That is miserable.

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser

In the UK one reason for daylight savings was it was shown that darkness was very highly correlated with car accidents involving children walking to school in the dark. Anybody who drives around schools in Dec/Jan in Calgary knows how hard it can be to see children crossing the road.

As it is we only have 3-4 weeks of mornings when it's still dark out when I take my kids to school. For those in BC, the hour change will make a lot more dark mornings (Maybe 10 weeks?)

Hopefully we don't see an increase in accidents involving children walking to school in BC from this.

When we had this discussion about permanent DST in Alberta a while back, I remember doing the math.

Permanent DST means roughly double the amount of mornings you'll start your day in the dark. Using 8am as the cut off, this is the number of days where the sun rises after 8am:

Normal time: Nov 19 - Feb 8 = 81 days
Permanent DST: Oct 15 - Mar 10 = 146 days

Using 8am as a cut off is too early for the school discussion, but this is the main reason permanent DST becomes very unpopular so quick. People vastly underestimate how dark it will be in the morning for such a long stretch. It messes with your body and mood and it gets recognized quickly.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

I agree. I would prefer we stay on standard time all year.

The sunrise times in winter, if we stay on Daylight time all year long would begin 9:18 on December 1, then 9:14 on January 31, peaking at 9:38 and 9:39 for several weeks from December 22 to January 7.

That is miserable.

My argument was for the average 8-5ish worker, with the current standard time, you go to work in the dark and home in the dark. Going to DST you'd still go to work in the dark, but there would be light when going home.which would make it feel less slave like to me.

I expect our province will spend $164728266 on a commission and then a non binding public vote before doing nothing until the US changes.

[DownInFlames]

Old people are for earlier sunrises so I'm against them. Young and vital people who still have some life in them want later sunsets. The choice is obvious.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ita actually better for us. If a game day thread says 6pm it's 6 not 5pm. At least November to March. 8 always watch the game exactly 1 hour after game start so I can miss commercial breaks and intermission by skipping. I know it's not much less math but and subtracting to added math is a plus!

Yeah, I had a huge brainfart there. Thanks to everyone reading it who chose not to take me up on that.

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

IIRC there is a particular area within Arizona that rejects daylight savings and a small island within it that implements it.

At least we haven't reached that level.

It's kind of like that in BC. The Town of Creston I think follows their own rules about time changes.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Old people are for earlier sunrises so I'm against them. Young and vital people who still have some life in them want later sunsets. The choice is obvious.

Youth may be wasted on the young but sunlight is wasted on the old. All old people get is melanoma. We’re actually doing them a favour by casting them in more darkness during their waking hours (5 AM - 7 PM)

[puffnstuff]

Or we could just keep changing the clocks and quit being dicks about which group someone thinks doesnt deserve light based on when they may or may not wake up or when a game may be broadcast.

[Nancy]

Daylight Savings Time is functionally identical to a law compelling everyone to go to work an hour early, but if you had a referendum on that I'm sure the support would be pretty low. But, I have flex hours, so I don't really care either way.

[SutterBrother]

You losers still use clocks?

Phhhhh. Put down the tech bro.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Morning people are psychopaths.

[Drak]

Longer dark mornings makes it easier to hide the bodies.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Morning people are psychopaths.

When you get old like me you will enjoy sunrises immensely. And also sunsets because you'll require far less sleep.

[Amethyst]

I'm already getting up in the dark every day of standard time anyway. Continuing to get up in the dark for those days if we adopted year-round daylight saving time wouldn't make any difference.

I'd rather not have 4am sunrises and shorter evenings in the summer.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Old people are for earlier sunrises so I'm against them. Young and vital people who still have some life in them want later sunsets. The choice is obvious.

The sunshine bores the daylights out of me.

[gonzo29]

Dropping daylight savings time would screw up my after work rounds of golf in the summer, and for that reason I'm out.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Golf is a big enough factor I think that alone is enough reason to not go to any system which reduces evening sun in the summer. Regardless of whether or not standard is better for our health or sleep or any other reason.

[Looch City]

#### it, pull it 2 hours back.

Sunshine is for the weak.

Darkness breeds strong true men.

[Fuzz]

If we add or subtract(depending on season) ~2.3 minutes per week we can just sorta smooth this out. Everything runs on network time anyway, just drift it(add offsets). It's about a third of a minute a day. No one would notice. It's about time we embrace dynamic time.


RIP old thermostats. And maybe some other stuff. Whatever.