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Old 02-28-2026, 10:58 PM   #29081
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dino7c tried to suggest it NEVER happens unless the deal is basically done but Tyler Myers is still out for the Canucks tonight. Coleman and Kadri in the lineup is needlessly reckless.
Yes, following the Canucks MO is probably best, as they are such a well run organization.
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Old 02-28-2026, 11:17 PM   #29082
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Since 2019, Nil has sent out the following:

2nd & 3rd (Zuccarello)
1st (Lundqvist)
2nd (Domi)
2nd (Tanev)
1st (Granlund)
2x1st (Rantanen)

So 4x 1sts and 3x 2nds. Nil has traded away last year's first, this year's first, and their 2028 1st, along with one of their top prospects/young players in Stankoven. That's hardly sitting on his hands.



Since 2018 the Jet have traded away:

1st (Stastny)
1st (Hayes)
2x 2nd (Dillon)
2nd (Niederreiter)
2nd (Toffoli)
1st (Monahan)
2nd (Schenn)
2nd (Tanev)

Again, hardly sitting on their hands. The Jets are on virtually every NTC/NMC in the league, and most players have trade protection. Cheveldayoff is severely handicapped in his ability to improve the roster through trades. The Jets also can't attract UFAs because of the market.

People who complain that NHL GMs aren't aggressive enough don't seem to understand how many players have trade protection. Fully three-quarters of the quality veterans in the NHL have NTCs or NMCs. And that number is only increasing.

The biggest restraint on player movement in the league is that players today have far more control in where they play than in the past, and they're not at all reluctant to exercise that control
Even if they don’t have control the players can exercise control by telling teams that they won’t sign there.
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Old 02-28-2026, 11:20 PM   #29083
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Yes, following the Canucks MO is probably best, as they are such a well run organization.
They are a train wreck and the most frustrating piece is how the draft system rewards it, they likely will have a better young franchise forward next year than us. Not because of anything they did right largely because of demkos health and ineptitude. if there was any justice they will lose the lottery.

That said I do think they and the rangers made the right play holding players out when they knew they were dealing them. Not piling on the flames because we dont know if anyone is actually close to a deal
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Old 02-28-2026, 11:28 PM   #29084
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It is for sure a bit confusing. If the rumors about good offers on the table are true either Conroy has decided he will use all the time to the deadline just to make sure he gets the absolute top offers while playing them which is obviously a big gamble as far as injuries and other teams changing or withdrawing their offers, or they were hedging on the flames own team still as if they had won tonight they would have been only 7 points out of the wildcard. Hopefully the loss tonight is coupled with Seattle picking up points and any thoughts of scenario B is put to bed.

Hopefully we get through the ducks game tomorrow without any injuries
It could also be as simple as the good offers are from teams Coleman and Kadri won’t go too
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Old 02-28-2026, 11:58 PM   #29085
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It could also be as simple as the good offers are from teams Coleman and Kadri won’t go too
Thought I read somewhere here there were 4 teams on Coleman which 2 were outside the 10 he declined to extend to those teams?
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Old 03-01-2026, 12:10 AM   #29086
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You'd think that sitting kadri or coleman could be a way to put some perceived urgency on interested teams as well.

Don't see why they're not doing it...
I’d say the opposite. Sitting him says your offer isn’t good enough. We will just keep playing him. Not urgent for us.
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I’d say the opposite. Sitting him says your offer isn’t good enough. We will just keep playing him. Not urgent for us.
Yeah, I think it's the Flames sending the message that they are not desperate to trade either player. If you sit them, you are pretty much telling other teams that they can wait until Friday and try to lowball because you pretty have to trade the player at that point.

The only way they should sit out is if a trade is so close that it will certainly get over the line at some point, or if you have the deal worked out and are trying to get the player to waive. Sitting them out if no acceptable or firm offer is on the the table would be daring teams to low ball you.
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Old 03-01-2026, 01:16 AM   #29088
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It seems the Flames just don't care about the injury risks and will chance it. I don't agree with it, but I don't think they will change their philosophy and start scratching players even if a trade is close.

They played Rasmus while a deal with the Bruins was accepted pending contract negotiations. A lot of teams would have sat him in that situation. It is what it is at this point.
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Old 03-01-2026, 01:26 AM   #29089
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dino7c tried to suggest it NEVER happens unless the deal is basically done but Tyler Myers is still out for the Canucks tonight. Coleman and Kadri in the lineup is needlessly reckless.
I never said this...it happens, not as often as you think though
player does need to agree to sit though

Myers is sitting out...yah! What about the rest of the players getting traded this deadline? There are far more players on the block who are playing than players sitting out.
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It baffles me how little trust Conroy has gained as he routinely goes about his business the right way. He’s got the nerve to play the game of chicken with these gm’s now and isn’t getting pushed around nearly as much; those upset with players still playing who have term still past this year were also getting upset about Andy playing but until Conroys price was met he kept playing Andersson who was playing inspired hockey right up until he got traded. Conroy pulled the trigger 4 hours after it was established a sign and trade wasn’t going to be an opportunity and Conroy had his rental price met by Vegas, a price that is looking better and better by the day, he did remarkably better than the Hanifin trade no doubt.

Kadri and Coleman are different scenarios entirely and both are still Calgary Flames past this season, Conroy is asserting his position again by playing these players, meet my price or pound sand basically, he doesn’t have to trade them right now and I don’t blame Conroy for taking this stance after seemingly being pushed around in past trade deadlines (while also doing quite well considering the position he found himself in)

We’ve seen this movie before, he pushed back when Fitzgerald tried to pressure Conroy at the deadline with Markstrom; Conroy didn’t budge and then got an absurd return from the same GM in the offseason for an over the hill 34 year old goalie. I don’t know what else Conny can do to gain the confidence of the usual crowd that laments his approach almost constantly.

Also using Myers as the example of a player being sat out; well, his price has reportedly been met, the Nucks have approached him to waive and he’s now considering the option, with the price being met there is no reason to play Myers until he comes to his decision. Trochek played yesterday - price hasn’t been met yet, pretty simple.
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Old 03-01-2026, 07:32 AM   #29091
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It seems the Flames just don't care about the injury risks and will chance it. I don't agree with it, but I don't think they will change their philosophy and start scratching players even if a trade is close.

They played Rasmus while a deal with the Bruins was accepted pending contract negotiations. A lot of teams would have sat him in that situation. It is what it is at this point.
It's not what I would do, but so far he has done a good job in extracting as much value as he can for these players, and that is his job as a GM.

At this point hoping for some better quality prospects coming back, but those are incredibly hard to get from teams, another 1st, 2nd and some 3rds would be a tidy but of business for Coleman and a retained Kadri, fingers crossed we get more
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It baffles me how little trust Conroy has gained as he routinely goes about his business the right way. He’s got the nerve to play the game of chicken with these gm’s now and isn’t getting pushed around nearly as much; those upset with players still playing who have term still past this year were also getting upset about Andy playing but until Conroys price was met he kept playing Andersson who was playing inspired hockey right up until he got traded. Conroy pulled the trigger 4 hours after it was established a sign and trade wasn’t going to be an opportunity and Conroy had his rental price met by Vegas, a price that is looking better and better by the day, he did remarkably better than the Hanifin trade no doubt.

Kadri and Coleman are different scenarios entirely and both are still Calgary Flames past this season, Conroy is asserting his position again by playing these players, meet my price or pound sand basically, he doesn’t have to trade them right now and I don’t blame Conroy for taking this stance after seemingly being pushed around in past trade deadlines (while also doing quite well considering the position he found himself in)

We’ve seen this movie before, he pushed back when Fitzgerald tried to pressure Conroy at the deadline with Markstrom; Conroy didn’t budge and then got an absurd return from the same GM in the offseason for an over the hill 34 year old goalie. I don’t know what else Conny can do to gain the confidence of the usual crowd that laments his approach almost constantly.

Also using Myers as the example of a player being sat out; well, his price has reportedly been met, the Nucks have approached him to waive and he’s now considering the option, with the price being met there is no reason to play Myers until he comes to his decision. Trochek played yesterday - price hasn’t been met yet, pretty simple.
I think a lot of us have ptsd from the Treliving/Feaster/Sutter years. Watching the team walk valuable assets to market for nothing.

Now that we have a competent GM at the helm, we have hope that he will do the right thing and cash out at the right time. All the MSM “insiders” who were predicting a flurry of deals post freeze whipped people into a frenzy and raised expectations for fans. And we have frayed nerves seeing our trade chips in the lineup at risk of injury which adds to the collective angst.

Everyone wants things done now but begrudgingly we have to accept that conroy has to follow the market. Buyers have to want to buy and it will start to crystallize closer to the deadline.
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If a deal is imminent the player usually sits. Rarely does a team sit a guy just to protect them against injury. Especially over prolonged period. Chychrun was maybe that guy, the outlier.

I’d say that right now it’s more likely the Flames have nothing imminent or certain on anyone they’d be dealing.

If they have the offers we’re told and are just deciding, then a player would be held out.

Otherwise would just be stupid.
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It baffles me how little trust Conroy has gained as he routinely goes about his business the right way. He’s got the nerve to play the game of chicken with these gm’s now and isn’t getting pushed around nearly as much; those upset with players still playing who have term still past this year were also getting upset about Andy playing but until Conroys price was met he kept playing Andersson who was playing inspired hockey right up until he got traded. Conroy pulled the trigger 4 hours after it was established a sign and trade wasn’t going to be an opportunity and Conroy had his rental price met by Vegas, a price that is looking better and better by the day, he did remarkably better than the Hanifin trade no doubt.

Kadri and Coleman are different scenarios entirely and both are still Calgary Flames past this season, Conroy is asserting his position again by playing these players, meet my price or pound sand basically, he doesn’t have to trade them right now and I don’t blame Conroy for taking this stance after seemingly being pushed around in past trade deadlines (while also doing quite well considering the position he found himself in)

We’ve seen this movie before, he pushed back when Fitzgerald tried to pressure Conroy at the deadline with Markstrom; Conroy didn’t budge and then got an absurd return from the same GM in the offseason for an over the hill 34 year old goalie. I don’t know what else Conny can do to gain the confidence of the usual crowd that laments his approach almost constantly.

Also using Myers as the example of a player being sat out; well, his price has reportedly been met, the Nucks have approached him to waive and he’s now considering the option, with the price being met there is no reason to play Myers until he comes to his decision. Trochek played yesterday - price hasn’t been met yet, pretty simple.
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Hopefully we see some action on Monday, in that case.
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I thought some of the insiders (honestly can't remember who), were adamant that Flames had quality offers in hand for Kadri.

It just makes no sense to keep him at this point if true.
I believe you’re thinking of Darren Dreger’s statements from February 20, 2026 on Barn Burner. He stated “there are offers that are available to the Flames that are viewed as being good offers, offers that would make the Flames better”.
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Depth defenseman you say…

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I hope we see Conroy get creative and see if he can convince some teams to one stop shop.

Pachal or Hanley + Lomberg for ?? Would Buffalo be interested in adding those guys? If disrupting the room/chemistry is a concern then Lombo and Hanley would be great additions, both have been fantastic in the room here and are warriors on the ice.
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Panarin was also held out for trade reasons before he was dealt. We have seen it many times in the past years as well.

It is especially true that you should hold players out when you are near the bottom of the standings and looking to rebuild. Because every point is crucial to the race for a top 3 pick, and playing Kadri and Coleman is actively hurting our future.

They both also play a style that can easily lead to injuries, especially Coleman. It is just smart to sit them.
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I believe you’re thinking of Darren Dreger’s statements from February 20, 2026 on Barn Burner. He stated “there are offers that are available to the Flames that are viewed as being good offers, offers that would make the Flames better”.
I doubt any offer is "going to make the Flames better".

And, of course, I mean immediately.
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