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Old 02-22-2026, 01:29 PM   #1521
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God damn it all. Best game I've seen Canada play in a while, also the best game I've seen Hellebuyck play. Too bad about some of those missed chances.

The oly solace I take in all of this is seeing Guy Gaudreau celebrate and Gaudreau's jersey brought out. Classy move.
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Im not getting into it here but "political" reasons certainly make it sting more. Entire social media from the US is 51st state crap right now.
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Old 02-22-2026, 01:31 PM   #1524
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Trent is obsessed with Trump. Don't feed the troll.
Rich coming ftom "JuSt AdMiT hE iSnT a pEdOpHiLe gUyS" guy

You've already outed yourself as among the dumbest of the dumb.

Too much maga stink on this board lately.
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#### it, I’m out.
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Old 02-22-2026, 01:35 PM   #1526
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In a few decades people will remember the Cup Winners and the Olympics winners.

No one will care about the four nations Cup lol. Sorry, just the truth.
Are you suggesting that no one remembers Canada's heroic, historic win at the 2004 world cup of hockey? Just look at that timeless, instantly recognizable trophy. I'll never forget where i was when we beat...whoever the hell it was that we beat.

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Old 02-22-2026, 01:42 PM   #1527
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Are you suggesting that no one remembers Canada's heroic, historic win at the 2004 world cup of hockey? Just look at that timeless, instantly recognizable trophy. I'll never forget where i was when we beat...whoever the hell it was that we beat.

I remember this game well actually, 3-2 vs Finland. Kipper stood on his head and almost stole it for the Fins. I think this was also the tournament where Canada had those mustard yellow alternate jerseys.
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Old 02-22-2026, 01:44 PM   #1528
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The 4 Nations will forever be inextricably linked with the political climate of the time, and in tandem with the subsequent Olympic outcome that went the opposite way. In 10 years I'm absolutely certain we'll still look back on 2025 and 2026 as two of the most memorable international events in recent history — far surpassing pretty much any other tournament since Vancouver 2010, and in no small part because of the proximity to each other, the mirrored outcomes, and the fact that they were the first true best-on-best men's tournaments in over a decade.
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Old 02-22-2026, 01:50 PM   #1529
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Im not getting into it here but "political" reasons certainly make it sting more. Entire social media from the US is 51st state crap right now.
And the other half are "why are Canadians hating on us so much" just clueless imbeciles.
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The 4 Nations will forever be inextricably linked with the political climate of the time, and in tandem with the subsequent Olympic outcome that went the opposite way. In 10 years I'm absolutely certain we'll still look back on 2025 and 2026 as two of the most memorable international events in recent history — far surpassing pretty much any other tournament since Vancouver 2010, and in no small part because of the proximity to each other, the mirrored outcomes, and the fact that they were the first true best-on-best men's tournaments in over a decade.
While I am not a fan of Russia and I don’t think that they should be in the Olympic Games, it is hard to argue it is best on best when one of the top teams isn’t there.
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While I am not a fan of Russia and I don’t think that they should be in the Olympic Games, it is hard to argue it is best on best when one of the top teams isn’t there.
It's true, it does put a little asterisk on both tournaments. They would have had a great team. Any of the semi-finalists would have had a difficult time beating them.
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In a way it's a bit like 98 where it was a really good team who had chances to win. But on the day of the game the other teams goal tender was on point. It can happen in this type of tournament.
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Perhaps if the game was decided by playing hockey instead of by an NHL regular season gimmick I'd agree the game will be remembered but I've already moved on from this. I'm sure the yanks will hang their hat on it but oh whale enjoy that
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In a way it's a bit like 98 where it was a really good team who had chances to win. But on the day of the game the other teams goal tender was on point. It can happen in this type of tournament.
IMO Most of it was the overpowered team gripping their sticks too tightly.

They had multiple gaping nets.

Such a thin line between a convincing canada victory and hellebuyck being hailed with one of the "all time great" performances.

No question he was good, but this was a couple inches from 3-1 CAN, if not more.
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So, when you as the last time mcdavid has captained a team to winning a championship?
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Old 02-22-2026, 02:09 PM   #1536
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My political views are pretty strong, but I’ve enjoyed the absence of that crap in this thread.
Agreed, i come to Calgary Puck to talk hockey not politics. This thread was going along nicely, hope it can keep going that way.
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Agreed.

My biggest pet peeve is athletes weighing into politics.

Just shoot the puck and stfu.
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Old 02-22-2026, 02:13 PM   #1538
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Fully agree. Though on McKinnons missed shot on the first shift he was back and prevented a 2 on 1 and McKinnon slow getting back almost had Hughes score that shift.

Again, when Makar went for the blue line pinch McDavid had to hold up in case Makar did intercept the pass.
Would have to see iso video of th full back check but Hughes would’ve been skating full speed. That said I would presume it wasn’t a disconnect controller type effort from McDavid, and any way you slice it, he is behind Makar and McKinnon if we are playing the blame game for that sequence.
If you excuse McDavid holding up then I don't think you can fault Makar for the pinch (it was a loose rolling puck afterall). There were multiple decision points in the play, and IMO McDavid chose poorly 4 times:

1. The rush. McDavid spun up with both teammates skating the wrong direction on Canada's side of the red line. By the time McDavid enters the offensive zone his teammates are still on the wrong side of the red line. The reason the seas parted for Marner last time is that he had pass options on both sides.

2. There is a moment where Werenski, Larkin, and McDavid are all below the goal line and Werenski has free possession of the puck in the corner. McDavid could turn back and shadow Larkin, but he chooses to skate towards the corner. Werenski seemed to be planning to slow it down, but McDavid's line forced him forwards and he bobbled the backhand pass. (so not a bad outcome but it meant 3 Americans moving forward and 2 Canadians in limbo)

- Makar pinch is a debatable decision.

3. The slight hold up hoping Makar wins the pinch. Again he could shadow Werenski or even just skated towards the puck (a likely outcome would have been more of a loose puck between Makar/Larkin) to prioritize regaining possession/better position for backcheck. Instead he hopes Makar makes the perfect play.

Of course the outcome is Werenski and Larkin chasing the loose puck with more speed and than McDavid; the two Americans are nearly across the centre line before McDavid crosses the blue line.

- so now MacKinnon defending the 3 on 1 has to decide between going hard for the loose puck or defending the trailer(s). He goes for the puck but I think there's a slight hesitation knowing he can't give up a cross ice pass (him being less than 100% can't help either). He should have been better here, but he did enough to slow things up that things may have been okay if not for decisions #2, 3, and 4 by McDavid:

4. At first it looks like Larkin is the threat as Werenski/MacKinnon contest the puck. McDavid way too far back to do anything about Larkin, but McDavid has stopped skating as he crosses the blue line and isn't even carrying a ton of speed (before this he was out of frame but it didn't look he was skating very hard as he left the frame).

Larkin chases the contested puck, and so does McDavid despite being 15 feet behind and there being no real threat of a good shot from where the puck is. There is a moment where it looks like things will be kinda okay - likely Larkin getting the puck facing the corner well below the dot. The only threat would be a blind backhand pass to Hughes. McDavid floats in limbo instead of covering Hughes (which also would have made sense to get Makar back lower)

As it turns out Werenski gets the puck on his forehand and can make the pass easily. McDavid ends up inside the wrong faceoff circle while Hughes gets the puck on the other's hashmark. Game, blouses.


So it's lots of subtle little choices. None of it happens with #1. If McDavid stays with Werenski on #3 then Werenski isn't coming out of that battle with the puck on his forehand. But IMO #2 was actually the worst decision even though it kinda worked. There is a moment there where McDavid was effectively in front of both American players as Werenski gained clean possession, but he gave that up and then chased the rest of the play.
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Agreed, i come to Calgary Puck to talk hockey not politics. This thread was going along nicely, hope it can keep going that way.
Entirely depends on the maga sympathizing trolls.

If they say dumb things, they get reamed out. Definitely not letting that chatter be normalized here.

At least some of you can keep that stuff to yourselves and stick to hockey.
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The difference is he wasn’t looking to go one on three, he was looking to pass off and when the dmen slid over slightly it created a gap that he exploited. That’s very different from McDavid who decided back in his own end he was going to go one on 3. Marner read and reacted.
Marner's linemates crossed the blue line with him (though they were slow and he had some speed).

McDavid's linemates were crossing the centre line without much speed as McDavid crossed the blue line at full tilt. I doubt either linemate even entered the zone before Connor lost the puck
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