Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Blaster86]

How will this CPC/Liberal agreement affect my WFH status?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

How will this CPC/Liberal agreement affect my WFH status?

Congratulations, under a new agreement of this type you will be able to work from the office 7 days a week.

[PepsiFree]

Speaking of!

Bruce Fanjoy, who represents the Carleton riding in the House of Commons, said in a social media post there's no evidence the policy will boost productivity and warned it will increase pollution.

He also said the new policy makes it harder for the government to reduce its operating costs, improve affordability and protect the environment.

The federal government is ordering public servants to be in the office at least four days a week starting in July, while executives are expected to return to the office full-time in May.

Fanjoy, who represents an eastern Ontario riding with more than 10,000 public servants, argued the policy also makes it harder for public servants to balance their work with other responsibilities.

He pushed for what he called a "flexible" hybrid model with a mix of in-office and remote work.

"The right balance is flexible and depends on circumstances," he said. "Done well, a hybrid model reduces the cost of government and benefits workers and all Canadians."

https://www.timescolonist.com/the-mi...vants-11856733

Extra notable in that Bruce is the one who personally chased PPoil from Ontario.

A fair comment I think, though we will have to forgive him for his comment on types of working models and their benefit to all Canadians, as we understand such comments are complete derailments and explicitly unrelated to Canadian politics. Do better Bruce. But thank you for beating Pierre.

[TorqueDog]

Fanjoy knows his constituents, I suspect he's going to hold that riding for a good long while. Poilievre's rhetoric about slashing the size of the public service workforce was a massive own-goal considering Carleton's demographics.

[calgarygeologist]

This is an interesting story, an election result from the last election has been nullified by the courts. The article doesn't mention what happens next but I'm assuming they are forced to have a by-election ASAP as a result.

The Supreme Court of Canada annulled the results of a closely contested riding from last spring's election on Friday.

The Montreal-area riding of Terrebonne was initially declared for the Bloc Québécois until a judicial recount found the Liberals had won the seat by one vote.

But Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné, the Bloc candidate, called on the courts to annul the results and call a new election after CBC News reported that a voter had their mail-in ballot returned to them due to a misprint on the return envelope.

The voter, Emmanuelle Bossé, had marked her ballot for the Bloc.

Elections Canada acknowledged the error but said the results had already been finalized.

Liberal Tatiana Auguste was sworn in as the riding's MP following the recount and has been sitting as Terrebonne's representative since.

In October, a Superior Court judge rejected Sinclair-Desgagné's call for a do-over, arguing that a postal code mishap amounted to "human error" and does not constitute an irregularity as defined under federal electoral law.

The top court overturned that ruling after hearing arguments earlier in the day.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ter...sult-9.7088850

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This is an interesting story, an election result from the last election has been nullified by the courts. The article doesn't mention what happens next but I'm assuming they are forced to have a by-election ASAP as a result.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ter...sult-9.7088850

This is the kind of story that makes me proud to be a Canadian. Does anyone know what would have happened had that mail in ballot been counted properly? Does the returning officer flip a coin when a vote is tied between the top two vote getters?

I'm just looking at the vote count on wikipedia and it appears the Liberal candidate won the riding by two votes, not one. Why the annulment then?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

This is the kind of story that makes me proud to be a Canadian. Does anyone know what would have happened had that mail in ballot been counted properly? Does the returning officer flip a coin when a vote is tied between the top two vote getters?

I'm just looking at the vote count on wikipedia and it appears the Liberal candidate won the riding by two votes, not one. Why the annulment then?

I thought it was by one vote based on recent articles.

[Bigtime]

Edmonton Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux has crossed the floor to the Liberals:

https://bsky.app/profile/brianplatt..../3mf5f3ktbpc2d

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Edmonton Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux has crossed the floor to the Liberals:

https://bsky.app/profile/brianplatt..../3mf5f3ktbpc2d

So that's a majority or are they still 1 short.

[Blaster86]

Short with the by-election and Terrebonne, I believe.

[Fuzz]

Alberta turning red!

[surferguy]

PP coming in hot: DITCH THE SWITCH!

[Firebot]

Still don't like the whole floor crossing thing and never will (should always be a by-election), but this should come as no surprise once the majority of the CPC membership stood with Poilievre instead of taking a hard long look at themselves in the mirror. Carney is just a better leader and a more progressive conservative.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I suspect there could be a few Conservatives waiting to see how this convention leadership show plays out, and if it looks like more of the same may cross the floor after. It seems reasonable for them to give that process a chance, but also see the writing on the wall and want to save their own seat by making a majority, giving them a few years of security.

Just floating this up...I still think this is just the first of one or two more.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Still don't like the whole floor crossing thing and never will (should always be a by-election), but this should come as no surprise once the majority of the CPC membership stood with Poilievre instead of taking a hard long look at themselves in the mirror. Carney is just a better leader and a more progressive conservative.

I think it serves as a valuable reminder that we’re supposed to be voting for the individual representative, not the party.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I think it serves as a valuable reminder that we’re supposed to be voting for the individual representative, not the party.

Then remove the whip and remove party leadership from controlling appointments and nominations. Until those are gone the individual MP is completely useless. They are simply a play thing of their leader. You honestly don't even need to know their name. Even this swap, hes not going to do anything for the Liberals. He's just going to be another whipped vote with a cushy job when he retires.

It's a joke of an electoral system that someone gets 20% of the population to vote for them and the leader is essentially a dictator for 4 years. Imagine if someone like Trump got in power. The power of the PM absolutely dwarfs the power of the President.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I think it serves as a valuable reminder that we’re supposed to be voting for the individual representative, not the party.

No one does this realistically.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I think it serves as a valuable reminder that we’re supposed to be voting for the individual representative, not the party.

While that's true technically, most voters don't do this and only vote based on the party without ever learning about the candidate (see Kevin Vuong as the perfect example of blind partisan voting). People do this because of how much importance the party matters in our parliamentary system.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Firebot

While that's true technically, most voters don't do this and only vote based on the party without ever learning about the candidate (see Kevin Vuong as the perfect example of blind partisan voting). People do this because of how much importance the party matters in our parliamentary system.

Or just look at all the voters who don't care about who the candidates are and just want to know who the ABC candidates is that they are supposed to strategically vote for.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Or just look at all the voters who don't care about who the candidates are and just want to know who the ABC candidates is that they are supposed to strategically vote for.

Is that worse than those who can only vote blue? At least they are willing to vote for any alternative, even if it isn't going to achieve their communist utopia.