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Old 02-07-2026, 12:34 PM   #29741
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It's almost as if certain things actually come as a benefit of being a citizen of a country. A young working holiday in another country is a privilege and a luxury that many people can't actually experience and the visitors need to be prepared to take care of themselves. In Australia, they don't offer Medicare for working holiday visa participants from Canada.
That's what I don't understand. If I go anywhere, whether it's a holiday or some other temporary visit, I get insurance. If someone is getting a visa as part of the track to permanent residency or citizenship, I think that would be different, but if you are coming for the ski season, why shouldn't you get insurance for your stay?

It should be taken care of before you get here, the same way I take care of my travel insurance before I go somewhere.

Am I missing something on the nature of these visas, that they are not temporary, and just allowing for the person to work while on an extended vacation?
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Old 02-07-2026, 12:48 PM   #29742
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Don't be blind to the true reasons behind these things, or you just end up being a tool to implement them.
Thanks for sharing some random, unrelated, article that doesn't have anything to do with this policy change.

Do you also view this refugee healthcare policy change as racist and anti-immigration? I didn't see you coming out against these changes over the last two weeks or so.

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As of May 1, 2026, IFHP beneficiaries will be responsible for the following co-payments:

-$4 for each eligible prescription medication filled or refilled under the IFHP
-30% of the cost of all other eligible supplemental health products and services, including dental care, vision care, counselling and assistive devices
Beneficiaries covered by the IFHP will be asked to pay these amounts directly to their health care providers when they receive IFHP-eligible supplemental products or services. Basic health care benefits, including doctor visits and hospital care, will remain fully covered under the IFHP, with no co-payments required.

Starting May 1, 2026, we encourage IFHP beneficiaries to

-continue to choose a health care provider registered under the IFHP using the IFHP Provider Search tool
-ask their health care provider whether a co-payment will apply before receiving care
confirm how much they will need to pay
-keep receipts for any co-payments made
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...nges-ifhp.html
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Old 02-07-2026, 12:57 PM   #29743
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If you don't believe these polices from the UCP are because of anti-immigrant sentiments within the party and their supporters, picked up from their mirroring of American right wing politics, you are being wilfully ignorant. Blaming foreigners and immigrants for their failures in healthcare is an easy out for them, and their base eats it up.
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Old 02-07-2026, 03:15 PM   #29744
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There should be a counter protest by the residents of Wood Buffalo to separate from Alberta. After all, the oil is on their land, not southern and central Alberta
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Old 02-07-2026, 03:18 PM   #29745
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There should be a counter protest by the residents of Wood Buffalo to separate from Alberta. After all, the oil is on their land, not southern and central Alberta
How things would be different if they went with this map

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Old 02-07-2026, 04:14 PM   #29746
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Edmonton still would've been in Alberta though.
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Old 02-08-2026, 12:13 PM   #29747
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Hearing Jen Gerson accurately describe the separatist Albertans in such a raw unfiltered way is like a creamy hot chocolate on a cold winter day. Time:25:00


"I have never met more grown-ass men who are aggrieved whiny victims"

"loser energy"

"The most beautiful privileged wealth lives in the world and they are wrapped up in this idea that they are one of histories great victims"

"Whiny beta cu‎ck energy" -I think that one is actually their preferred energy drink.

"It's viscerally pathetic".

Really worth listening too. She's an Alberta treasure.
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Old 02-08-2026, 12:27 PM   #29749
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My favourite quote from that interview:

"They have elevated policy disagreements into an existential identity of victimhood. Trudeau passed a tanker ban. You don't like that? You don't agree with the way the country is going? You're angry about these policy losses? Good. Win something. Go f***ing win. Stop whining. Stop snivelling. Canada's not fair? F*** you, you're 12% of the population. Win. Make alliances."
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Them 'We cant do that because we only ever vote for one party'
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https://angusreid.org/alberta-unity-...ey-prosperity/

Three-quarters (74%) of “stay” voters say they would leave Alberta and move elsewhere in Canada if Alberta separated. Fewer than a quarter (23%) say they would stay in a newly independent Alberta.
The “leave” and “stay” voters are apparently occupying completely different information environments. The top sources of information about separatism for those who would vote stay are mainstream media (71%) and social media (45%). Those who would vote leave are getting their information from alternative media sources (50%) and conversations with friends and family (45%).
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My guess is 80% don’t know what is going on; if you want to stay you have to leave and if you do stay you will be leaving.
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I have more than a few friends who either already have a plan or are in the stages where they’re getting serious about figuring one out in terms of where they could live and the logistics around it.

I guess the best we can hope for is that house prices don’t totally evaporate and some buyers still exist. Otherwise losing that will suck but not sure what else you can do.
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“Low Information” voters are a plague on humanity.
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I have more than a few friends who either already have a plan or are in the stages where they’re getting serious about figuring one out in terms of where they could live and the logistics around it.

I guess the best we can hope for is that house prices don’t totally evaporate and some buyers still exist. Otherwise losing that will suck but not sure what else you can do.
If those dumb kunts could hold off like 4 years.

I figure I have 3 yrs tops left in Alberta
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If this is seriously moving forward, we need a process that I haven't heard proposed. One issue is that all these promises get made, people vote, and like Brexit, once those promises are found to be bull####, it's too late.


1) petition for referendum
2) referendum vote on condition of approval of The Deal.
3) the real work, negotiation of the parameters of separation. The Deal. Clearly we need to know if we are voting to be independent or a US territory. But also our pension cut, costs, deals with FN's, etc.
4) a final binding vote on The Deal
5) Separation


Brexit jumped from 2 to 5, then did 3 without 4. This is dumb. No one should want this. We need to ensure we get to vote on The Deal, and that we are not bound by fantasy promises peddled by morons of deceit. Step 2 should not be binding in any way, and anyone saying it should is doing so because they know the facts and reality are not on their side, and want to hoodwink you before you are shown reality.
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“Low Information” voters are a plague on humanity.

“Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.”
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If this is seriously moving forward, we need a process that I haven't heard proposed. One issue is that all these promises get made, people vote, and like Brexit, once those promises are found to be bull####, it's too late.


1) petition for referendum
2) referendum vote on condition of approval of The Deal.
3) the real work, negotiation of the parameters of separation. The Deal. Clearly we need to know if we are voting to be independent or a US territory. But also our pension cut, costs, deals with FN's, etc.
4) a final binding vote on The Deal
5) Separation


Brexit jumped from 2 to 5, then did 3 without 4. This is dumb. No one should want this. We need to ensure we get to vote on The Deal, and that we are not bound by fantasy promises peddled by morons of deceit. Step 2 should not be binding in any way, and anyone saying it should is doing so because they know the facts and reality are not on their side, and want to hoodwink you before you are shown reality.
I had posted this a few days ago, gets into the process

https://www.readtheline.ca/p/stephan...ession-process
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I had posted this a few days ago, gets into the process

https://www.readtheline.ca/p/stephan...ession-process
I had left that open form when you posted it, and got to it this morning! That's what led me to think we need to have a second vote once we know what it looks like.
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I don't have kids, but I pay an education tax every year. Should I demand a refund? I went 18 years without a vote for representation.

You know there are rational reasons for these things, right?

You also know what party we are dealing with, and the pressure they feel from their Christofascit base to attack foreigners of any type in any way they can? So, you know, this is right on brand for them. And if you support this decision, you are also supporting the racist reasons behind why they are doing it and an attack on immigrants, firmly rooted in white supremacy. And that would make you a pretty ####ty person. But I'm sure you only support it for the tax reasons. Which is pretty ####ty for it's own reasons, because it's the same FYGM attitude that the perpetual snowflakes espouse.

Maybe we should do the right thing for future citizens to build a stable, balanced, more equal society?

Naw, #### the immigrants. What are they doing getting sick anyway?

Thinly veiled bull####. Always good to out the people who support these views though.
Silly pickle. Racism and cruelty is a feature, not a bug!!
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