Poll request - where will Kadri be traded?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'll take Sam O'Reilly.
Good player and will be motivated to stick it to the Oilers, who originally drafted him.

He is still Tampas property....no?

[cam_calderon]

Yeah I was a little confused. Unless Tampa are in for Nazem?

[Finger Cookin]

I don't see Kadri being moved until this off-season at the earliest.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

I don't see Kadri being moved until this off-season at the earliest.

Ya, Kadri at full cap hit likely won't move until the summer.

Kadri with full retention can happen immediately but it will cost a lot more for the acquiring team to get those 4 retention slots and real dollars retained.

I hope it is the full retention path with a massive haul coming back (ideally as 1 asset). I expect it to be in the summer as a lesser trade because of how cheap most of the NHL GMs seem to be getting.

The teams that I hope get itchy to buy and go big this season are
Mammoth
Red Wings
Sabres (No way Kadri goes here, but maybe Whitecloud?)

They have all been out of the playoffs for a long time and are motivated to try to do more than show up in round 1 and get knocked out. Mammoth in particular need a good playoff run to build their Utah fanbase.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Anywhere is fine. Just so long as the package has a good prospect or a good package of picks.

I think this is a deal where fans need to temper expectations. With his age, term, and struggling season I don't think he pulls a package as good as some fans are thinking.

2nd and a B prospect with no retention.
That elevates with retention.

[kyuss275]

Depends if rumours are true that flames are going to work with kadri and send him where he really wants to go or if they send him anywhere they want that’s in trade list.

If anywhere I’ll say Carolina

If sending him to where exactly he wants then Toronto

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He is still Tampas property....no?

Oh yeah for some reason my brain shifted to Tampa

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Oh yeah for some reason my brain shifted to Tampa

Understandable....its the old "stick it to the Oilers each and every way we can" mentality.

I live for it myself.

[Calgary4LIfe]

My guesses - 2 long-shots that could be interested and have a fit for Kadri, and my personal favourite to land Kadri:

Longshots that make some sense:
Islanders: Rumour had it that they wanted to make a move this year. They could use an upgrade down the middle (Ritchie, Pageau and Cizikas are their lines 2-4 centers). I see a fit there. I am not sure i would qualify them as a contender, however, but they do sit 3rd in the Metro - that's impressive given where they were last season. They also have Makar v.2.0 in Schaefer.

Buffalo: LOL! Wait, I am not joking, actually. Buffalo isn't a contender, but they are holding onto the 1st wildcard spot, and that's after a terrible start to the season. They are a team that seem to be 'righted' now. Close as you can get to Toronto without being in Toronto when it comes to NHL cities. I am sure his list probably had Buffalo on it, but would Kadri block a trade to Buffalo now? I am not so sure. Their 2-4th line centers are Macleod, Ostland and Kozak - so it is likely that Kadri gives them a boost in their 2nd/3rd line (though MacLeod is having a heck of a year, so perhaps 3rd line for Kadri).

My favourite to land Kadri:
Minnesota: They are weak down the middle. Hartman is listed as the 1st line center on DailyFaceoff (FWIW), with Eriksson-Ek as the 2nd line center. I would assume Ek would play with Kaprizov, then Kadri would play on the 2nd line there. They just spent a lot on Hughes, but I don't think they have enough to compete with the heavyweights in the west - Colorado, Vegas and Dallas.

My longshot to land Kadri:
Colorado: I look at them as a longshot to land Kadri. From a positional standpoint, it makes sense, but they would need retention. Calgary would ask for a 1st for the retention alone (assuming at least getting his salary down to a 5 million cap hit). So a 1st+2nd+Prospect for Kadri? That seems a bit rich. Maybe Colorado includes Ross Colton in the deal (4.0 million cap hit for 2 seasons) in the deal, but probably not - he is a useful player for them, and other players with meaningful salary make even less sense. I see a fit for Kadri in their lineup, but I don't see a trade happening.

Return:
I agree with Bingo's estimation - 2nd + B prospect is what I would expect for Kadri without any retention. Maybe you can get a conditional 1st if Kadri plays for a certain amount of games, plus produces at a certain level, or the Wild get to a certain spot in the playoffs, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Hopefully there is a bidding war, or Conroy pulls something out of a hat, but I would be happy with a 2nd + B prospect, or something like a 2nd + 3rd + 5th type of thing.

[Strange Brew]

The Flames ended up trading the 16th pick in the 2025 draft to be able to sign Kadri. While Conroy shouldn't factor that into anything, personally I'd be very happy to get the equivalent back in a trade.

I imagine it will take retention to get much of value for Kadri so I've resigned myself to this not happening this year. Hope I'm wrong.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think this is a deal where fans need to temper expectations. With his age, term, and struggling season I don't think he pulls a package as good as some fans are thinking.

2nd and a B prospect with no retention.
That elevates with retention.

I generally agree with you but I think he gets a first plus a b prospect with a cap dump coming back.

I just don’t see why the flames would trade him before the offseason without getting a 1st. The Nelson return is really unlikely without 3 years of solid retention.

I do hope to be wrong though and a team loses its mind like Treleving did for Carlo or Tampa did for Jeannot in 2023. That would be amazing.

[This post is terrible]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Oh yeah for some reason my brain shifted to Tampa

I mean you could still trade Coleman to Tampa for him, and we can still lord it over Edmonton

[gvitaly]

I'm still hoping Toronto trades for Kadri in a last ditch attempt to save Tre's job. 28' 1st + Cowan.

Minnesota makes the most sense out of the front runners. I don't see Carolina trading for Kadri due to analytics. I don't see LAK paying much, and UTAH is on the outside looking in.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think this is a deal where fans need to temper expectations. With his age, term, and struggling season I don't think he pulls a package as good as some fans are thinking.

2nd and a B prospect with no retention.
That elevates with retention.

This is why a 1 stop shop for Detroit makes sense to me.
If you retain on Kadri and give them room to take Weegar a full boat, you can get a strong package.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I'm still hoping Toronto trades for Kadri in a last ditch attempt to save Tre's job. 28' 1st + Cowan.

Minnesota makes the most sense out of the front runners. I don't see Carolina trading for Kadri due to analytics. I don't see LAK paying much, and UTAH is on the outside looking in.

I think the Mammoth are in a very interesting spot for playoff success. WC1 is going into the pacific division. They will get Vegas (unless one of the other teams catch them) and their head-to-head record is pretty good this season (1-1-1).

If they gear up with the mindset of taking out Vegas, adding Kadri and Whitecloud would be pretty epic for adding a couple of cup winning players with high GAF meters. Also, Whitecloud defeating his former team would be delightful to watch.

If they get past Vegas, I think they have a chance to get to the conference finals where they probably get dummied by whichever team comes out of Central.

Of the teams in the list, I think the Mammoth are the only team with the assets to get maximum retention on Kadri, making him a great option for 2/3C. I imagine when Cooley comes back, Kadri would get third line duty and that he will feast on other team's secondary or tertiary defenders.

Kadri (50% retained) + Whitecloud for Desnoyers (and cap/roster dump if needed, but they do not need to dump cap to make it work)

As unlikely as that trade would be, the Mammoth prospect depth is so good that I doubt they would really miss Desnoyers. They can focus on developing Iginla and Beaudoin to play future C roles behind Cooley and those guys are ages 21, 19, 19. Their C depth would be set for a decade.

[Goriders]

My guess is Kadri isn’t going anywhere. Coleman is the one that’s going.

[Poe969]

Im thinking the Islanders. They were after him, they want to make a splash, they have 2 first rounders, and they've said they want to make a splash.

They'll end up with a first for him.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I think he'll be dealt in the off-season. I'd guess out of limb and say Chicago.

Chicago has shown no sign of wanting to sign aging players to long term contracts as their rebuild starts to come together.

I doubt they start now, and will simply be content to build organically.

They also gave Bedard, Frondell and Nazar plus Kanserov playing centre in the KHL.

Plus, I doubt he waives for Chicago.

[Yanda]

You dont retain on contracts with Kadri's term, instead you need to take a bad contract back. He only has a "few good years left" not trading him for this years playoffs is a waste

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Yanda

You dont retain on contracts with Kadri's term, instead you need to take a bad contract back. He only has a "few good years left" not trading him for this years playoffs is a waste

I think this is the way to go and i would bet its a defenceman coming back.