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Old 02-04-2026, 05:14 PM   #101
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This makes me want to draft him more. Willing to drop the gloves!
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:15 PM   #102
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No idea why he's not going out with security. Penn State should have done better.
Is it usual for hockey players to have security details whenever they go out?
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:15 PM   #103
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Kids can be brutal when you're a high profile person. You just can't take the bait. Part of the gig is having a thick enough hide to handle it.

Many would be frothing at the mouth to get you on the hook for something like this and land you in hot water as well as get a settlement out of it.

It's probably premature to play judge, jury and executioner here, and the court will ultimately decide. But sounds like the kid chirped something awful and McKenna snapped and gave him what he had coming (with alcohol probably factoring into that tipping point)

Like Pepsi said, we cheer guys on to mangle faces over much less within the context of a game where there are no legal consequences. This is basically that just in an unofficial setting where unfortunately for those who want to defend their mother's honor, the law does apply.

What's important from a drafting perspective (assuming he isn't cooked legally) is that this isn't a sign of a kid who is a loose cannon and doesn't have remorse for acting out. He will need to show some remorse for how he handled himself (not necessarily because the guy didn't deserve it).

Again, just part of the gig.

From what clips I've seen of Gavin, he does come off a bit.. robotic. Hopefully he gets it, because it would suck to have a career for someone so talented end before it begins.
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:16 PM   #104
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Yeah if that story is true and that idiot straight up called McKenna's mom that to Gavin's face, then kudos to him and he's my #1 overall with a bullet.

Talk s***, get hit.
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:17 PM   #105
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McKenna is still my number 1, if anything this just reinforced it. I would have punched that guy in the mouth too. That's the problem with a lot of society today, too many people can say whatever they want with no repercussions.
Not disagreeing with what you said. Just wondering if teams at 1 and 2 will change their opinions at all. I think McKenna and Stenberg are the top 2.
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:18 PM   #106
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If this is true then good on McKenna.

Nobody can trash talk your mom.
probably the scenario I can live with the most, if that makes sense. I can't completely defend clocking a guy, but in this scenario ... I get it. If true, of course.
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:18 PM   #107
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There was a bar fight every weekend at the bar/club we used to go to. And if the college got rowdy enough, probably a few fights.
I grew up in Kelowna in the early 90s.
Sometimes you'd go down to Splash's just to watch the fights...
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:18 PM   #108
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That would be the extenuating circumstances the defence is looking for, I'd imagine.
Well, unless there's more (like the other guy swing first or agreed to fight) he's still guilty. It might lower the sentence. Provocation isn't a defence to assault.
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:23 PM   #109
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Mistakes happen … but this is a major red flag. Shows me he’s not serious about his career. Or is taking it for granted. Either way not good.
Hopefully getting into trouble is wake up call for him. Sometimes making a huge mistake is the first step to becoming a better and more mature person.

I am waiting for more information before passing judgement. I suspect they are throwing the book at him for now and will see what sticks. Which is pretty normal I think.
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Usually not interested in early overreaction in these situations until the real details come out, if they ever do, but I'm not bothered if this kid was asking for it. Let's not get so soft that people can be absolute trash without the consequence of getting popped in the jaw. F around and find out.
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Count me as another person who would consider this a positive mark in the character box, if the situation about his victim chirping his family is true. Makes me hope we draft him even more and its nice to know that maybe he isnt going to be a shrinking violet going forward.
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Hopefully getting into trouble is wake up call for him. Sometimes making a huge mistake is the first step to becoming a better and more mature person.

I am waiting for more information before passing judgement. I suspect they are throwing the book at him for now and will see what sticks. Which is pretty normal I think.
Yes, they've made 4 charges that are for the same thing ranging severity of penalty. I predict a misdemeanor assault guilty plea. Or less.

Absent an injury there might not have been a charge at all though.
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Every franchise says they prioritize character when they draft.
They sure do, but I'd say the Flames are a bit more forward with how they say they value character as an org, and, unlike other orgs (we all know who), they've demonstrated it - for better or worse.

Just genuinely curious, regardless of the outcome I'm all this, of how this might affect the flames brass if they have the opportunity to draft him.

For the record, I would hope they would.



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Well, unless there's more (like the other guy swing first or agreed to fight) he's still guilty. It might lower the sentence. Provocation isn't a defence to assault.
True. But it might be a way of bargaining down to a misdemeanour charge of simple assault.

(EDIT: I see you mentioned the same thing while I was typing my reply. I paused to look up the categories of assault under Pennsylvania law.)
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They sure do, but I'd say the Flames are a bit more forward with how they say they value character as an org, and, unlike other orgs (we all know who), they've demonstrated it - for better or worse.

Just genuinely curious, regardless of the outcome I'm all this, of how this might affect the flames brass if they have the opportunity to draft him.

For the record, I would hope they would.



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Old 02-04-2026, 05:29 PM   #116
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Well, unless there's more (like the other guy swing first or agreed to fight) he's still guilty. It might lower the sentence. Provocation isn't a defence to assault.
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when I was living in Edmonton I remember a story of Kirk Maltby suckerpunching a guy outside a bar at a hotdog vendor.


very little internet footprint left of that one this is all I could find


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NOT GUILTY: Edmonton Oilers right wing Kirk Maltby was found not guilty of assaulting a man outside a bar last spring.
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Does anyone else feel like (potentially) 20 years for breaking someone's jaw is, ummm, excessive?
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True. But it might be a way of bargaining down to a misdemeanour charge of simple assault.

(EDIT: I see you mentioned the same thing while I was typing my reply. I paused to look up the categories of assault under Pennsylvania law.)
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Sounds like a very stupid thing he did but, if it’s the result of a bar fight gone sideways, what are we as fans of a sport where we regularly cheer on guys punching each other in the face going to say?
Wasnt at the bar ive heard.
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