2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by zukes

This says it all, LOL.

It doesn't the average 5 year turnover is 60-80% depending on sources/criteria

We are at 85%. We were at 20% before the Andersson trade

Higher end of expected for sure, but teams in general have huge amounts of turnover in the NHL minus star level players

[dino7c]

I think Kadri was picked because he is the hardest to move

What if they keep Kadri and trade one or more of Whitecloud, Coleman, Weegar?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

It doesn't the average 5 year turnover is 60-80% depending on sources/criteria

We are at 85%. We were at 20% before the Andersson trade

Higher end of expected for sure, but teams in general have huge amounts of turnover in the NHL minus star level players

do teams average 8+ firsts over 4 drafts? Who has signed fewer UFAs the last few years? Who has had the most cap space?

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The poll was made because you said if it was a rebuld opinions wouldn't be so split. They aren't.

So using your own logic I think you need to admit they are in a rebuild. Rebuild or not doesn't hinge on Kadri...he has 3 years left, what if nobody wants to pay to take his contract for that long? Should the Flames pay to move him just so you can call it a rebuild.

Also, Whitecloud has value...Vegas also needed to move the contract in order to fit Ras into their cap situation. It had nothing to do with "trying to compete"

I said it is murky if it is a rebuild or not. Clearly, the vast majority see it as a rebuild based on the poll and I was wrong.

I personally don't see Kadri's value ever being higher than this year with him aging. So I would like to see him moved this year.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dino7c

do teams average 8+ firsts over 4 drafts? Who has signed fewer UFAs the last few years? Who has had the most cap space?

What does that have to do with the graphic that showed the 21/22 team and said "this says it all" that i quoted.

That graphic doesn't prove anything except the Flames were on the high end of expected player turnover.

The fact you had to say more also proves my point. It doesnt say it all at all!

Thanks!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What does that have to do with the graphic that showed the 21/22 team and said "this says it all" that i quoted.

That graphic doesn't prove anything except the Flames were on the high end of expected player turnover.

The fact you had to say more also proves my point. It doesnt say it all at all!

Thanks!

More about your constant arguments that they aren't rebuilding than that specific post

[taxbuster]

It's clearly and unarguably NOT a rebuild...until Rhett says it IS. Then we can all rejoice for the unmitigated truth.


What a lot of wanking.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I said it is murky if it is a rebuild or not. Clearly, the vast majority see it as a rebuild based on the poll and I was wrong.

I personally don't see Kadri's value ever being higher than this year with him aging. So I would like to see him moved this year.

For Kadri, I think that we can see his value go up only depending on how much the Flames are willing to retain. there is an argument to be made that the Flames would be more aggressive retaining the fewer years he has remaining on his contract.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dino7c

More about your constant arguments that they aren't rebuilding than that specific post

I didnt say they weren't rebuilding once. I had to vote in a yes or no poll where I don't think either is the answer.

I also didn't say they were.

I think they have been in a 18 month wait and see where they will go.

And I believe it will continue through the offseason and I believe they will try to improve a bit heading into next year through UFA and maybe an offseason trade and that they believe their team is much better then they are this year.

Didn't you think they would win a playoff round this year in the poll? (Apologies if im mistaken)

Since that time they have made 1 trade of a UFA and got a ready top 4 D back.

Did you think a 97 point team and a team that was going to win a playoff round was "rebuilding?"

That would be an NHL first I think. That's actually a successful rebiggle.

If they move one player with term before the end of the season I will be convinced they are committed to a rebuild vs a rebiggle.

[dino7c]

Kadri would be more valuble now without term left

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I thought Celebrini and Bedard were close, and there were some whispers of stylistic similarities between the former and Crosby. But I didn't seem him being as close to Crosby as he is at this point. I can't recall a prospect that has come along that has reminded me of Crosby like he does.

Totally agree. I thought he had unreal offensive potential but didn't realize how much control over the flow of the game he would be able to exert, and basically right out of the gate.

He really is an incredible player. It is unfortunate that we will be dueling him for a large part (at least) of his career at a divisional rival.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I didnt say they weren't rebuilding once.

I also didn't say they were.

I think they have been in a 18 month wait and see.

And I believe it will continue through the offseason and I believe they will try to improve a bit heading into next year through UFA and maybe an offseason trade and that they believe their team is much better then they are this year.

Didn't you think they would win a playoff round this year in the poll? (Apologies if im mistaken)

Since that time they have made 1 trade of a UFA and got a ready top 4 D back.

Did you think a 97 point team and a team that was going to win a playoff round was "rebuilding?"

That would be an NHL first I think. That's actually a successful rebiggle.

If they move one player with term before the end of the season I will be convinced they are committed to a rebuild vs a rebiggle.

Are the Flames rebuilding?

Originally Posted by Jason14

NO

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kadri would be more valuble now without term left

It's a gamble, if he is as good as he is now with less term, 100% worth more, if his play falls off he becomes untradeable.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It's a gamble, if he is as good as he is now with less term, 100% worth more, if his play falls off he becomes untradeable.

That's the thing I'm not sure he is tradable without retaining. If they retain on him now they can't retain on Coleman.

Is it worth retaining on Kadri for a low return?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Totally agree. I thought he had unreal offensive potential but didn't realize how much control over the flow of the game he would be able to exert, and basically right out of the gate.

He really is an incredible player. It is unfortunate that we will be dueling him for a large part (at least) of his career at a divisional rival.

My dream SCF this year is Crosby's Pens v. Celebrini's Sharks.
Unlikely but would be incredible.

[Flamesfan05]

You retain whoever gives the best return

If I have a choice, I would retain Kadri because you may be able to trade Coleman for a decent return without retention. You can’t with Kadri
And they both need to go

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

My dream SCF this year is Crosby's Pens v. Celebrini's Sharks.
Unlikely but would be incredible.

Every final witout the Oilers is my dream SCF

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

You retain whoever gives the best return

If I have a choice, I would retain Kadri because you may be able to trade Coleman for a decent return without retention. You can’t with Kadri
And they both need to go

Thing is you can retain on Coleman now and then retain on Kadri in the summer. You cant do both at the deadline

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Isn't that a fair answer though? If they trade Kadri and Whitecloud or Coleman for example then yes. If they keep everyone then no.

I am on the fence if it is a rebuild.

Then today, January 27th 2026 your answer is clearly no.

This isn't hard.

[Kipper_3434]

I doubt the flames retain on either player. Far more likely they take back a bad contract such as Gallagher.
Coleman fully retained for two seasons is probably 2 1sts. Can't see a team paying that. Kadri contract is too long.