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Old 01-02-2026, 01:59 PM   #1
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Hard to believe it’s been 34 years ago.

On Jan. 2, 1992, the Flames traded Doug Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Jamie Macoun and Rick Wamsley, and Toronto sent Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Michel Petit and Jeff Reese the other way.

If only that buffoon Risebrough would have taken the Verbeek deal.

Hard to believe any trade being as bad/lopsided as this one. Interesting takes by the principal players in the deal. Didn’t know about Leeman’s head injury, shameful the flames didn’t do due diligence.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...-trade/?sn-amp
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It's pretty hard in a 10 player deal to get the 5 worst players, and while I'm not sure that quite happened here, I think if you look at a player by player comparison they likely did lose all 5 side by sides, which is quite something (and yet evident pretty much the day the deal happened, not in retrospect). if anything maybe I thought that Godynyuk was an intriguing mystery box, but from the day it was announced none of it made even a tiny bit of sense (unless you start thinking about the money and back room dealings etc-)
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I've done that comparison before. Roughly speaking, and matched up by position:

Gilmour >>>> Leeman
Macoun >> Petit
Nattress >> Godynyuk
Manderville > Berube
Wamsley > Reese

Petit and Reese were possibly better than Nattress and Manderville. I think it's fair to say that Risebrough gave up the three best players in the deal and got the three worst.

I understand there were liability issues that made the Flames want to unload Gilmour. But, geez Louise, trading Gilmour for Leeman one for one would have been bad enough. There was no earthly reason to bundle four more one-for-one trades in and lose every one of them.
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Loved Risebrough as a player. Couldn't stand him as a GM.
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Hard to believe it’s been 34 years ago.

On Jan. 2, 1992, the Flames traded Doug Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Jamie Macoun and Rick Wamsley, and Toronto sent Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Michel Petit and Jeff Reese the other way.

If only that buffoon Risebrough would have taken the Verbeek deal.

Hard to believe any trade being as bad/lopsided as this one. Interesting takes by the principal players in the deal. Didn’t know about Leeman’s head injury, shameful the flames didn’t do due diligence.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...-trade/?sn-amp
What was the rumoured Verbeek deal?
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Old 01-02-2026, 06:52 PM   #6
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Old 01-02-2026, 06:53 PM   #7
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What was the rumoured Verbeek deal?
Gilmour for Pat Verbeek and Jim McKenzie

https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey...r-doug-gilmour
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Gilmour for Pat Verbeek and Jim McKenzie

https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey...r-doug-gilmour
Probably liked the deal that got done better because they dumped a lot of money.
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Why would you bring this up? Damn you.
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This game was the catalyst the "Goal-a" parody song

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^ I remember when the Oilers got Roloson, Maclean suggested they'd finally gotten a goalie to compete with Kipper. Hrudey snorted at that.
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^ I remember when the Oilers got Roloson, Maclean suggested they'd finally gotten a goalie to compete with Kipper. Hrudey snorted at that.
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