2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If you don't see a plan in drafting in the first round 4 straight years, not bringing in vets, and moving assets before they expire than you'll never see one.

And I've said 100 times that fans being frustrated over the pace of a rebuild is fair game.

Arguing a rebuild is happening is the stuff of madness.

Pro tip ... break up that wall of text ... giving my ADHD fits!

It feels like most of the people arguing against the flames approach are having an issue with how they are rebuilding and the group that has largely been defending their moves and actions likes to keep the argument narrative around the fact “is the team rebuilding”.

Some people hate the approach so they like to say it is “not a proper rebuild” but I think it is quite ridiculous to say that this team isn’t clearly trying to transition to a younger core which is in fact rebuilding.

The question in the thread Jiri started should be “are you happy with how the flames are rebuilding?”

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'm just going by what they have said publicly - and they have publicly been adamant all offseason and this season that they wanted to make the playoffs.

And also by what I've heard privately - which is that they thought the West was weak (it is) and that they could compete with the playoffs without making short term moves and moves that hurt them long term.

The plan was to move Andersson. But I don't think they came into the season with any expectations of moving the other 2 veterans.

What they said publicly was that they wanted to be "competitive". Some people interpret that as "compete for the playoffs" and others just think it means "a team that competes hard in games". But moreover, no one in a public facing position is going to say "we are going to have a terrible team, please buy tickets".

Who have you heard from privately?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, Duclair was an expiring contract, so that's different accoridng to a lot of posters. Hertl was a nice sale to Vegas, but also very easy to move and they didn't have to retain. But they also picked up Jake Walman and Klim Kostin for some reason, and paid LA for the signing rights to carl Grundstrom. The year before they picked up Jan Ruutta and the aforementioned Duclair. They signed Wennberg, Toffoli, Sabourin for multi year deals.

It's not all linear.

They picked up Jake Walman for a 2nd and then flipped to the Oilers for a 1st - basically what the Flames should be doing with Whitecloud at some point during his contract (not necessarily this trade deadline).

Toffoli and Wennberg were after they got Celebrini.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

If they do not trade Kadri by the deadline, then I do not consider it a rebuild.

It really depends what else they do as well. For example the Andersson trade they got some future assets but then also acquired Whitecloud. If they are planning on flipping him, then great but if they got him to try to stay somewhat competitive it was a weird choice for a rebuild.

He has been one of our best dmen since the trade lol.

They havent won a game!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

They picked up Jake Walman for a 2nd and then flipped to the Oilers for a 1st - basically what the Flames should be doing with Whitecloud at some point during his contract (not necessarily this trade deadline).

Toffoli and Wennberg were after they got Celebrini.

They flipped him almost a year later. I have no idea whether that was the plan but I doubt it. But if someone offers you a first for Jake Walman you'd better take it.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Celebrini wasn't supposed to be an amazing generational type player.

Maybe we will get lucky and win the lottery, and draft a player who becomes way better than their projection.

This is just wrong. Everyone watching his stats and play knew he had generational potential. There were even plenty of people on this board who wanted to start the tank for him specifically.

I thought Bedard would be better but both looked like world beaters pre draft. They are paying out now.

Gavin is of the same make imo.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Bingo

What is full terrible then?

Vets on Sharks roster ...

23-24 Vlasic, Couture, Hoffman, Granlund, Hertl
24-25 Vlassic, Granlund, Toffoli, Goodrow, Ceci

The Flames have what ... Weegar, Huberdeau, Kadri, Coleman and Backlund

Aren't the Flames already there?

The 2023 guys:
Vlasic - was done, just playing out a contract (essentially Huberdeau)
Couture - barely played - injured
Hoffman/Granlund - picked up so they could move Karlsson
Hertl - traded

They then got Celebrini and could move to the next stage.

[dino7c]

8+ firsts over 4 drafts and near league high cap space with no significant UFA adds "trying to sneak in"

Like do you not get how dumb that sounds? Some people are just so attached to their own narrative.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

They picked up Jake Walman for a 2nd and then flipped to the Oilers for a 1st - basically what the Flames should be doing with Whitecloud at some point during his contract (not necessarily this trade deadline).

Toffoli and Wennberg were after they got Celebrini.

Correction they were paid a 2nd to take Walkman’s contract for future considerations and then flipped him for a 1st. SJ Walman play returned them better assets than the Flames got for Hanifin or Tanev

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Correction they were paid a 2nd to take Walkman’s contract for future considerations and then flipped him for a 1st. SJ Walman play returned them better assets than the Flames got for Hanifin or Tanev

Damn facts

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It feels like most of the people arguing against the flames approach are having an issue with how they are rebuilding and the group that has largely been defending their moves and actions likes to keep the argument narrative around the fact “is the team rebuilding”.

Some people hate the approach so they like to say it is “not a proper rebuild” but I think it is quite ridiculous to say that this team isn’t clearly trying to transition to a younger core which is in fact rebuilding.

The question in the thread Jiri started should be “are you happy with how the flames are rebuilding?”

Well that's not the question I was trying to answer, but we can follow up with that question.
A poster put out a thought that the majority of Flames fans don't think the Flames are re-building. So I was finding out if that was true.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The Flames were coming off a 97 point season . They were adding Parekh to the lineup , and we’re hoping their young players would take another step forward

They were rumoured to be in on some of the offseason trades like Cozens

How do you know they didn’t try to make the team better? We have no idea who they tried to sign or trade for .

Now they certainly didn’t make stupid moves to try and marginally improve - I’ll 100% give you that and think it’s a welcome change .

Remember the vast majority of this board thought the Flames would
Just miss the playoffs or make / advance. That’s a 90+ point pace most people believed in . Why is it far fetched to think Flames management thought this would be a 100 point team with some improvements from the younger players and Parekh ?

A lot of the same people who thought the Flames were a playoff team this year now “clearly” see it’s a rebuild 4 months later and 1 trade (a player who was getting moved either way from everything reported over last 6 months)

I don’t think the Flames knew what they had as a roster coming into this year and took a wait and see approach . That’s a low risk low reward approach either way - Not adding to a 97 point team and not subtracting / accelerating the rebuild by subtracting

Now there’s lots of time between now and deadline to solidify a way forward , but if we leave this season with just the Andersson trade that will be 1 trade we acquired picks and 1 trade we acquired assets (frost and farabee) for picks over 2 years

Not exactly a rebuild to write home about .

Great post. Should put it on a sign so we can just tap on it when the turkey squad gets all up in arms.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Great post. Should put it on a sign so we can just tap on it when the turkey squad gets all up in arms.

LOL, certain posters get "all up in arms" but I doubt it's who you think. Hint: it's the ones who get all het up whenever some "insider" says anything even suggesting the Flames won't burn it down.

[Jiri Hrdina]

"turkey squad"

So helpful.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by blankall

I disagree. The Flames are already part way through the rebuild with Parekh, Wolf, Reschny and a bunch of depth in the system. What they are missing is that top line forward talent.

The Sharks have that top line talent, but are missing a lot of the other pieces that the Flames have.

I meant more in line with how they sold vets. The Flames are in a better spot than the Sharks if they luck into a Celebrini like talent.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It feels like most of the people arguing against the flames approach are having an issue with how they are rebuilding and the group that has largely been defending their moves and actions likes to keep the argument narrative around the fact “is the team rebuilding”.

Some people hate the approach so they like to say it is “not a proper rebuild” but I think it is quite ridiculous to say that this team isn’t clearly trying to transition to a younger core which is in fact rebuilding.

The question in the thread Jiri started should be “are you happy with how the flames are rebuilding?”

Given some of the push back today I think his first poll had to be posted just to define things.

Then maybe a follow up.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

And to the 'we need veterans' people - just get worse veterans. Its not like the veterans are going to be around when the team gets good anyways.

None of the veterans on the Sharks were on the team two years ago and they seem to be on the right path.

Speaking for myself here as one of those posters who has said 'we do need veterans around', I'm pretty much on board with you there. I would move Kadri, I would move Coleman, I'd probably move out atleast one of Pachal/Hanley/Whitecloud, I'd move Sharky (maybe not considered a veteran on this team but he's still occupying a roster spot I'd like to see Honzek or Gridin occupy), I'd probably move Lombo if an offer came along but he's also on an expiring contract.

Really the only vets I'd keep around are Huby because it's an immovable contract at this point, and Backs because it's just looking like he'll end his career here. I'd keep Weegar around for the time being, but would be open to offers down the road.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Great post. Should put it on a sign so we can just tap on it when the turkey squad gets all up in arms.

What the hell is a turkey squad?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bingo

What the hell is a turkey squad?

People who disagree with him

[TheIronMaiden]