2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

I'll be honest, it looks like you're grading the rebuild based on rumored things that didn't happen that didn't have a rebuild flavour, and/or things that may or may not happen in the future but assuming that they won't be to your liking.

I don’t grade anything anywhere

I’m saying it’s not “clear” they are in a rebuild vs a rebiggle anymore today vs start of the season other then they are having bad results

If they were in a playoff spot with the exact same roster would it still be a rebuild ?

And I am not convinced the Flames don’t see this as a single bad year blip and think last years results are closer to what they are going forward , and that it will make them hesitant to make more moves this season.

Even the Andersson trade they made sure to get a ready now D who can contribute .

(And I didn’t mind the Andersson trade at all)

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/2016204854411276732

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

But who did they get to replace the ones no longer there? Nelson, Necas, Lehkonen, Manson, Malinksi, Burns, Oloffson - these are veteran replacements. Not a youth movement.

Just saying that the number of roster moves isn't really indicative of anything other than players were moved.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Just saying that the number of roster moves isn't really indicative of anything other than players were moved.

The 5 year turnover for a team is 60-80% depending which sources you believe / how’s it calculated (ie 3 guys playing 4th line C over a 5 year period is that 3 turnovers or 1)

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The Flames were coming off a 97 point season . They were adding Parekh to the lineup , and we’re hoping their young players would take another step forward

They were rumoured to be in on some of the offseason trades like Cozens

How do you know they didn’t try to make the team better? We have no idea who they tried to sign or trade for .

Now they certainly didn’t make stupid moves to try and marginally improve - I’ll 100% give you that and think it’s a welcome change .

Remember the vast majority of this board thought the Flames would
Just miss the playoffs or make / advance. That’s a 90+ point pace most people believed in . Why is it far fetched to think Flames management thought this would be a 100 point team with some improvements from the younger players and Parekh ?

A lot of the same people who thought the Flames were a playoff team this year now “clearly” see it’s a rebuild 4 months later and 1 trade (a player who was getting moved either way from everything reported over last 6 months)

I don’t think the Flames knew what they had as a roster coming into this year and took a wait and see approach . That’s a low risk low reward approach either way - Not adding to a 97 point team and not subtracting / accelerating the rebuild by subtracting

Now there’s lots of time between now and deadline to solidify a way forward , but if we leave this season with just the Andersson trade that will be 1 trade we acquired picks and 1 trade we acquired assets (frost and farabee) for picks over 2 years

Not exactly a rebuild to write home about .

66% of fans predicted that the Flames would miss the playoffs this year, and like you said, that is coming off of a 97 point season, with some exciting prospects in the conversation.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=199685

[Rhett44]

Regardless of what the teams plan was coming in to the year, if they trade Kadri and Coleman this is a rebuild whether they want to admit it or not.

If they hold onto them, then it makes things murky. And would indicate they really haven't picked a direction. Because both players value will only go down next year.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I don’t grade anything anywhere

I’m saying it’s not “clear” they are in a rebuild vs a rebiggle anymore today vs start of the season other then they are having bad results

If they were in a playoff spot with the exact same roster would it still be a rebuild ?

And I am not convinced the Flames don’t see this as a single bad year blip and think last years results are closer to what they are going forward , and that it will make them hesitant to make more moves this season.

Even the Andersson trade they made sure to get a ready now D who can contribute .

(And I didn’t mind the Andersson trade at all)

So you're arguing it's not a rebuild, it's a rebiggle.

Is that it?

I don't have an issue with fans wanting the rebuild more aggressive, but I'm up to here with the fans that are trying to suggest they are trying to stay competitive.

There is just too many data points clearly showing an organization not doing anything to help the on ice product, while accumulating assets that will help the future to get mired in this daily.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Regardless of what the teams plan was coming in to the year, if they trade Kadri and Coleman this is a rebuild whether they want to admit it or not.

If they hold onto them, then it makes things murky. And would indicate they really haven't picked a direction. Because both players value will only go down next year.

So if they trade Coleman and not Kadri because they can't get a good price for the latter, it's not a clear re-build?

You keep moving the posts on what defines a re-build, thus making it impossible for them to ever reach that standard.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

66% of fans predicted that the Flames would miss the playoffs this year, and like you said, that is coming off of a 97 point season, with some exciting prospects in the conversation.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=199685

I wish that poll was set up so we can see who voted for what.
Because stuff get tossed around about what others have believed.
Like Bingo, I thought this team was set up to be well out of the playoffs last year and this year. I saw nothing that looked like a competitive team on paper.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bingo

So you're arguing it's not a rebuild, it's a rebiggle.

Is that it?

I don't have an issue with fans wanting the rebuild more aggressive, but I'm up to here with the fans that are trying to suggest they are trying to stay competitive.

There is just too many data points clearly showing an organization not doing anything to help the on ice product, while accumulating assets that will help the future to get mired in this daily.

It was murky for me until the Markstrom trade but after that I was sold they were rebuilding. The Flames definitely wouldn’t keep cap if they were trying to win imo

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander

Steinberg operates on a lot more than gut feeling. He forecasts the organization's direction correctly too often for it to be "great reads".

He's not an insider, but he fed info from the Flames fairly regularly and told to be on "high alert" when things are close.

He projected the 2025 deadline was going to be quiet for the Flames. Listening to him stumble over his words on a post-game call-in show two weeks ago when he knew the Andersson trade was imminent was hilarious (he was struggling to phrase a response without letting on that he knew the timing of what was coming).

If Steinberg is giving out a "feeling" of where he thinks the organization is at with respect to its players, you can surmise that Connie and company have similar feelings.

I dunno - complete outsiders predict just as accurately, if not moreso. He's like many of these guys - they make a ton of predictions and then only the correct ones are remembered. I mean, a year ago Steinberg thought the Flames should extend Andersson. He thought they'd extend Kuzmenko. Te predicted they'd re-sign Vladar.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I wish that poll was set up so we can see who voted for what.
Because stuff get tossed around about what others have believed.
Like Bingo, I thought this team was set up to be well out of the playoffs last year and this year. I saw nothing that looked like a competitive team on paper.

Yeah the year before poll, the fan's opinion of the team was bleak. They definitely proved us wrong. 85% of fans saw the team missing the playoffs...

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=196987

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I wish that poll was set up so we can see who voted for what.
Because stuff get tossed around about what others have believed.
Like Bingo, I thought this team was set up to be well out of the playoffs last year and this year. I saw nothing that looked like a competitive team on paper.

I was bottom ten and thought they’d be there last season as well. It is why I didn’t mind the unexpected pop last season as I think it will be the closest they get to playoffs over the next three years.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

So if they trade Coleman and not Kadri because they can't get a good price for the latter, it's not a clear re-build?

You keep moving the posts on what defines a re-build, thus making it impossible for them to ever reach that standard.

If they do not trade Kadri by the deadline, then I do not consider it a rebuild.

It really depends what else they do as well. For example the Andersson trade they got some future assets but then also acquired Whitecloud. If they are planning on flipping him, then great but if they got him to try to stay somewhat competitive it was a weird choice for a rebuild.

He has been one of our best dmen since the trade lol.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I wish that poll was set up so we can see who voted for what.
Because stuff get tossed around about what others have believed.
Like Bingo, I thought this team was set up to be well out of the playoffs last year and this year. I saw nothing that looked like a competitive team on paper.

Before last season I was sure they'd pick top 5, and even when they were up after the good start I thought they'd sink to the bottom, much like this season. This year I predicted the same, especially because I figured Andersson would be gone and they'd be playing younger guys.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Regardless of what the teams plan was coming in to the year, if they trade Kadri and Coleman this is a rebuild whether they want to admit it or not.

If they hold onto them, then it makes things murky. And would indicate they really haven't picked a direction. Because both players value will only go down next year.

To you maybe.

I don't see murky.
I see a clear direction.

Both Kadri and Coleman will be traded to match the direction they are in.

May not be this year, but my gut says at least one of them will be.

[Royle9]

The question is, would people rather move Kadri NOW for a lesser return than say next year or the year after barring he keeps the same level of play?

He plays a position we're very weak in but could very well regress further the longer he plays.

Coleman I'm less worried about, I think there's enough interest and likely offers too good to pass up on the horizon here, so they'll have every chance to move him if they want. I see no reason to hold on to him now given their recent play.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

If they do not trade Kadri by the deadline, then I do not consider it a rebuild.

It really depends what else they do as well. For example the Andersson trade they got some future assets but then also acquired Whitecloud. If they are planning on flipping him, then great but if they got him to try to stay somewhat competitive it was a weird choice for a rebuild.

He has been one of our best dmen since the trade lol.

Why? If they don't get a good offer it's not a rebuild suddenly?

[SuperMatt18]

They for sure came into this year thinking they would contend for a playoff spot, and the plan would have never been to move Kadri and Coleman coming into the season.

They weren't jeopardizing the future to try to make the playoffs this year, but the organization thought the roster and young players could build on last season for sure.

[3thirty]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

If they do not trade Kadri by the deadline, then I do not consider it a rebuild.

It really depends what else they do as well. For example the Andersson trade they got some future assets but then also acquired Whitecloud. If they are planning on flipping him, then great but if they got him to try to stay somewhat competitive it was a weird choice for a rebuild.

He has been one of our best dmen since the trade lol.

So he must be traded, even if it's a bad offer?

Can't wait to see you complain if and when he does get traded for "not enough" like Andersson.