2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by getbak

The price is low (i.e., what the Flames are asking for) or the offers are low (i.e., what teams are willing to give up)?

Didn't hear what Kypreos said this morning, but when he put up his trade board up last week, he said the initial feelers/offers for Kadri were low.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by Bingo

We're not.

They've been working in young players for three years. Not adding veterans. Sitting on draft capital and cap space.

They are getting more comfortable with making what they are doing public.

It's so tiring, this group of people and faux media who think that the only way to rebuild is to rip every piece out of the organization that would have even a little value. Personally, I have full faith in how this is going.

It's funny, because this crowd is the same ones that said others would not have the patience for a rebuild, but now that it's not going the way they've constructed in their head, it is them who are impatient.

Look at what has left and what has come in. How can this be anything but a rebuild? Plus, they will get rid of at least a couple depth d-men, and one of Coleman or Kadri if the price is right.

Patience everyone, we are on a good path.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by getbak

The price is low (i.e., what the Flames are asking for) or the offers are low (i.e., what teams are willing to give up)?

Kipper made it sound like a handful of teams have offered nothing of substance. He reports The Flames are in no rush to make a deal, but deep down they know that Kadri is not happy and he would not be surprised if the Flames lower their ask to make a deal happen before the TDL.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by Bingo

We're not.

They've been working in young players for three years. Not adding veterans. Sitting on draft capital and cap space.

They are getting more comfortable with making what they are doing public.

This.

People overestimate the impact of any one move on what the organizational "mandate" might be.

Every organization in the league takes a "wait and see" approach with their team every year. Every season is different and you don't necessarily know what you have before you start. Look at the Anaheims, Buffalos and Detroits of this season, all of whom finished below the Flames last year and have been near the bottom of the standings for many years. By all reports, Detroit was in on Andersson. Have they "shifted their organizational mandate" or are they just incorporating new information?

Last year we missed the playoffs by a tiebreaker and did so on the basis of a relatively young roster. It was entirely possible we were in the mix this year. I think most of us are surprised at just how bad we are this year.

The organizational mandate seems to me to be that we ensure we get some value for expiring contracts and generally prioritize draft capital and younger players. I'm fine with that.

[Calgary Highlander]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Didn't hear what Kypreos said this morning, but when he put up his trade board up last week, he said the initial feelers/offers for Kadri were low.

It's going to be a no-win scenario.

Flames have a pretty high bar on retention, and they aren't going to get the offer that they need to retain ~11.5M on Kadri, simply because teams aren't going to want to give up the assets the Flames are looking for for a 35 year old.

Nazem should get nice and comfy. He's playing out his deal in Calgary.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Reactive not proactive

Adaptive, not reactive.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Are you going to be ok?

It's just as wrong as a theory now as it was then if it makes you feel any better.

They came into the last two seasons with a boat load of cap space and draft capital. One season they stayed in it all season and still didn't add.

Are you going to be ok when you are proven wrong, again? Or are you just going to bash the same "we're on the path" drum or whatever?

Everyone around and on the team has said that they went into this season thinking they would be relatively competitive and didn't want to sell.

That was obviously a really dumb assessment of our roster and place in the league.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by zukes

It's so tiring, this group of people and faux media who think that the only way to rebuild is to rip every piece out of the organization that would have even a little value. Personally, I have full faith in how this is going.

It's funny, because this crowd is the same ones that said others would not have the patience for a rebuild, but now that it's not going the way they've constructed in their head, it is them who are impatient.

Look at what has left and what has come in. How can this be anything but a rebuild? Plus, they will get rid of at least a couple depth d-men, and one of Coleman or Kadri if the price is right.

Patience everyone, we are on a good path.

It's really tiring listening to people reject reality and the words of management and well recognized public insiders for their own invented reality about how the team is conducting a rebuild.

Even the Rasmus trade, tons of reports that they were trying to sign him up until the start of this season. So, it can effectively be argued that this was another player that forced their hand rather than someone they actively planned to jettison and replace internally during a rebuild.

If flames management had their way, we'd still have Lindholm and Andersson on the roster at the very least.

[GioforPM]

It totally figures that once the Andersson trade was completed, posters would find a new snippet of a post form media to decide that the rebuild is over.

The Flames have been getting younger for three years. Amassing draft picks for vets is getting younger. Getting younger players for vets is getting younger. It doesn't happen all at once though, and lots of factors create obstacles to the goal - other teams' offers, players' rights, other teams doing as badly (many unexpectedly).

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Are you going to be ok when you are proven wrong, again? Or are you just going to bash the same "we're on the path" drum or whatever?

Everyone around and on the team has said that they went into this season thinking they would be relatively competitive and didn't want to sell.

That was obviously a really dumb assessment of our roster and place in the league.

Is there a Team in the league that went into last this season saying they were planning on being awful? A few have come out since their terrible start, but at training camp were any teams saying that this was a year they were going to trade everyone and finish deadlast?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

It's really tiring listening to people reject reality and the words of management and well recognized public insiders for their own invented reality about how the team is conducting a rebuild.

Even the Rasmus trade, tons of reports that they were trying to sign him up until the start of this season. So, it can effectively be argued that this was another player that forced their hand rather than someone they actively planned to jettison and replace internally during a rebuild.

If flames management had their way, we'd still have Lindholm and Andersson on the roster at the very least.

There were not "tons" of reports about an Andersson extension, and the credible reporting says that both Rasmus and Lindholm were given very team friendly offers and there was little to no negotiation on those. I have always thought Conroy, as an ex player, believes that vets deserve the respect of an offer, even if he knows it can't be accepted.

And who cares why they were traded. They were, and for good returns.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Is there a Team in the league that went into last this season saying they were planning on being awful? A few have come out since their terrible start, but at training camp were any teams saying that this was a year they were going to trade everyone and finish deadlast?

As bingo is fond of saying, there is plenty of space between what you said and firmly believing you are competitive in any way.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yet pointing this out in September was a cardinal sin!

Always a victim

[Toonage]

I'll push back a bit on Lindholm. By all accounts they made him a very generous offer at full term. Not team friendly in the least. There was clear intent IMO to keep him in the fold. When he turned that down in the fall of 23 they pivoted as it was clear he didn't want to be in Calgary.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Always a victim

Ever the hypocrite!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I'll push back a bit on Lindholm. By all accounts they made him a very generous offer at full term. Not team friendly in the least. There was clear intent IMO to keep him in the fold. When he turned that down in the fall of 23 they pivoted as it was clear he didn't want to be in Calgary.

There are two amounts out there, and one more credible than the other, which was much lower.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

It's really tiring listening to people reject reality and the words of management and well recognized public insiders for their own invented reality about how the team is conducting a rebuild.

Even the Rasmus trade, tons of reports that they were trying to sign him up until the start of this season. So, it can effectively be argued that this was another player that forced their hand rather than someone they actively planned to jettison and replace internally during a rebuild.

If flames management had their way, we'd still have Lindholm and Andersson on the roster at the very least.

Both players were reportedly willing to sign and stay in Calgary. So… why didn’t they?

The fact that people need to re-litigate every little thing to stay mad is just so silly. People wanted a rebuild, right? Well, the Flames are 29th in the league, one point up on 31st, approaching draft 3/4 of having multiple first round picks. Eventually people need to get over themselves, stop “rejecting reality” and realize that regardless of how we got to where they wanted the team to go, they got there.

Or stay mad forever I guess lol.

[TheIronMaiden]

Why get so worked up now when trades are fun, be angry 5 years from now when the Team is still out of the playoffs.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I'll push back a bit on Lindholm. By all accounts they made him a very generous offer at full term. Not team friendly in the least. There was clear intent IMO to keep him in the fold. When he turned that down in the fall of 23 they pivoted as it was clear he didn't want to be in Calgary.

By his own account after the trade he wanted to be in Calgary and was willing to stay. So, guess we can throw your theory out the window.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

By his own account after the trade he wanted to be in Calgary and was willing to stay. So, guess we can throw your theory out the window.

Sure, at 10 million or so.