American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Firebot]

There's a new video of an ICE execution in Minneapolis. Looks like it happened this morning? Straight up execution. The guy has at least 7 ICE thugs wrestling him with one pistol whipping him, you hear one gunshot at first, and they eventually just start shooting him in cold blood (with the guy initially pistol whipping shooting him 5-6 times at least). Count 12 shots.

Won't show the video for obvious reasons.

Americans actually think that the midterms will be what saves them?

[direwolf]

I hate to say it, but a full on civil war breaking out might be the only way for any of this insanity to stop and for sane Americans to take their country back. Also, Trump and his minions would be so busy trying to put out fires in their own backyard, they wouldn’t have the time or the resources to wreak havoc on the rest of the world.

[Sylvanfan]

I must say if I had to come up with someone who's the complete opposite of a competent, courageous, honest, and respectable leader. Howard Lutnick would fit that perfectly.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by direwolf

I hate to say it, but a full on civil war breaking out might be the only way for any of this insanity to stop and for sane Americans to take their country back. Also, Trump and his minions would be so busy trying to put out fires in their own backyard, they wouldn’t have the time or the resources to wreak havoc on the rest of the world.

I’m honestly stunned there hasn’t been a LA Riot level shootout between ice and civilians yet

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Firebot

There's a new video of an ICE execution in Minneapolis. Looks like it happened this morning? Straight up execution. The guy has at least 7 ICE thugs wrestling him with one pistol whipping him, you hear one gunshot at first, and they eventually just start shooting him in cold blood (with the guy initially pistol whipping shooting him 5-6 times at least). Count 12 shots.

Won't show the video for obvious reasons.

Americans actually think that the midterms will be what saves them?

Saw the vid... this was a straight up swarming, beating, and then execution. ####ing disgusting. Dude wasn't even resisting - how could you resist anyways when 10+ people are beating the #### out you?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Just saw one video but looks like another murder by ICE in Minnesota. Not sure why the person was murdered when there were already 8 people on him?

I wouldn’t be surprised if things really spiral out of control soon, you cannot live in a society like that without people eventually shooting back.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis...m_doll_donuts/


Here's the video. it's from far away so not gruesome if anyone wants to see it. The fact that the dude put a few rounds in him, everyone steps back, and the murderer unloads the rest of his clip into a dying non-resisting person is undeniably unnecessary use of force. He wanted to make sure the guy was dead-dead.


It's almost like everyone warning Trump would be out there murdering Americans and got laughed at and dismissed by the moderate right for overreacting were actually underestimating the depravity of what would befall America. I know those people are lining up to apologize and recognize how right we were, and that they will be more vigilant going forward. What? No one has done that? Shock and surprise.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...ection-46.html

They have to do a lot more than talk.

How about sedition, then?

Seditious words

• 59 (1) Seditious words are words that express a seditious intention.
• Marginal note:Seditious libel
  (2) A seditious libel is a libel that expresses a seditious intention.
• Marginal note:Seditious conspiracy
  (3) A seditious conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to carry out a seditious intention.
• Marginal note:Seditious intention
  (4) Without limiting the generality of the meaning of the expression seditious intention, every one shall be presumed to have a seditious intention who
  
  • (a) teaches or advocates, or
  • (b) publishes or circulates any writing that advocates,
  the use, without the authority of law, of force as a means of accomplishing a governmental change within Canada.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...ection-59.html

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I don’t know what Carney hoped to achieve with that Davos speech but if his intention was to trigger a tantrum by the baby in chief he got what he wanted.

Trump now back to calling him Governor. Great. Now Trump’s focus (at least this week) will be on destroying our economy.

Spoken like a true Pierre Polyester. hahahaha

I see tacos on the menu next week.

[#-3]

Thanks Fuzz,

I usually avoid these police snuff films. But I did watch that, because I do think it's a particular moment in time separated from the culture of police allowing bad apples to thrive.

From what I saw the person was resisting, I think it's not all that useful to deny that fact.

Then swarmed by at least 8 DHS, ICE... And as you said killed with excessive emphasis on the killed.

We should prepare our selves for the right wing claim that I have not seen yet and will be completely unsubstantiated that he reached for one of their guns. But the fact is the direct cause of this is, their presence, and them carrying out in very public and violent ways, what used to be and should be well planned and targeted enforcement. And even at that it would not justified any subsequent shoot.

The US is at the point needs a serious reconning, if somehow Trump allows elections and the Democrats win, and these low level thugs go to jail, but the leaders escape, and win again only to pardon all of the thugs again, it will only be worse next time. I don't know what needs to happen but, I don't see how the US gets out of this without deep deep scars.

[5abi]

Trump needs to be stood up to. Trudeau has it right and carney is doing it right now.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by opendoor

They can't get it through the Senate unless several Democrats agree to vote for it, which I don't see happening.

I honestly don't think they care too much about the midterms. Obviously Republicans would rather win, but they've already centralized so much power in the Executive Branch that a Democratic congress isn't going to be much of a counter to that as long as the judiciary remains compliant. Particularly with how weak the Democratic party seems to be during crises. For instance, ICE is at its most hated right now, and yet they happily passed an extension for their funding without introducing any real restrictions or limitations on their authority.

And for 2028, if Republicans are willing to go full fascist (which they almost assuredly are, absent something dramatic happening), then there's really no viable way for a Democratic President to take office regardless of the election outcome. The main hope would be people fearing legal consequences should the scheme fail, so maybe they won't be too blatant about it, but I'm not sure they're too worried about that.

Can someone answer as to why the Dems happily passed an extension for ICE funding? It seems like most or all Dems are against ICE.

[TherapyforGlencross]

Well, that certainly looked like an execution. 8 shots too, if i counted right.

[Fuzz]

He was definitely resisting, no denying that. But the use of deadly force was not required when they hadn't even tried to fill his face with pepper spray yet. He stopped resisting when shot twice(I think). The murderer then steps back and unloads. That's the murder part. Anything before that may have just been unnecessary use of force(assuming he may have survived the first shots). This is a conclusion reached in the Goode murder, too. The following shots are what makes it murder.

[direwolf]

Great stuff from the Onion.

https://theonion.com/report-fighting...ds-1841390886/

WASHINGTON—Confirming the challenges associated with preserving liberal democracy, the nation’s top political scientists issued a report Friday that found fighting against the rising tide of authoritarianism sounds like a ton of work.

“After extensive analysis, we can state with a high degree of certainty that meaningfully resisting the erosion of equality and personal freedoms would probably be super exhausting,” said lead researcher Jeremy Dwyer, warning that stemming the flow of autocratic rule would require a sustained campaign of political pressure over a long period of time that would likely make Americans tired just to think about.

“Whether it’s attending protests, campaigning for progressive candidates, or even committing to ethical purchasing habits, our data show that engaging at this level would be a whole thing that could eat up a bunch of time.

The majority of American citizens are very sleepy and want to get back to their beds as soon as possible. Plus, this all sounds kind of like a big pain in the ass.”

Dwyer added that the report concluded it would be so much easier to simply march in unthinking lockstep to an all-powerful ruler.

[Drak]

Asha Rangappa

‪@asharangappa.bsky.social‬
I am watching what is happening in Minneapolis on Ali Velshi and one of the ICE officers (off camera) literally says, “It’s like Call of Duty. Pretty cool huh?” as they shoot whatever it is they are shooting. Agents walking around, guns unholstered for no reason. This is insanity


https://bsky.app/profile/asharangapp.../3md6o2dsvac2k

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

DHS now says he was armed. No word of what with. Possibly something terrifying like a passport or birth certificate?

[TherapyforGlencross]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

He was definitely resisting, no denying that. But the use of deadly force was not required when they hadn't even tried to fill his face with pepper spray yet. He stopped resisting when shot twice(I think). The murderer then steps back and unloads. That's the murder part. Anything before that may have just been unnecessary use of force(assuming he may have survived the first shots). This is a conclusion reached in the Goode murder, too. The following shots are what makes it murder.

Surrounded by 6 officers as well.

[puffnstuff]

That lady in the pink that was filming from the other side...her video is going to be very interesting to see.
Still a murder though. Im sure trump officials with be blaming the victim for making them shoot him.
Reports are he has died.

[surferguy]

All hell is gonna break loose today in Minnesota today isn’t it?

[1991 Canadian]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Can someone answer as to why the Dems happily passed an extension for ICE funding? It seems like most or all Dems are against ICE.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ing-rcna255273

“The vote was 220-207, with seven Democrats breaking with their party and voting yes.”

It’s incredibly disingenuous to suggest democrats are happily passing bills to fund ICE. They don’t have control of any level of federal government. The vast majority, 207 of the 214 democrats voted against this.