Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

It's not even called the Trans-wagon.

My Aunt used to have one of those. That was a Premium Van.

[woob]

1996 Pontiac Trans Sport SE

Sold for $USD 11,000 in May 2025.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by woob

1996 Pontiac Trans Sport SE

Sold for $USD 11,000 in May 2025.

Who would pay $11 Grand for that? I dont think it was worth that brand new!!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's just super weird how obsessed some people are with trans issues.

They can't concentrate on anything other than penises. Who has them, who doesn't, who wants them, who doesn't.

I was thinking about it the other day (not penises) that it is kind of weird that our government ID even has information about our genitalia. Like there should never be a situation where someone is checking your ID, and they are like yup, brown eyes, 183 cm tall, photo looks like you.... . Now please show me your D so we can make sure it really is you.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Locke

Who would pay $11 Grand for that? I dont think it was worth that brand new!!

Bring a Trailer commands some stupidly high prices for those types of 80s, 90s and 00 vehicles. I've followed and bid on a few vehicles and it is surprising how often they go for 3 or 4 times what should be reasonable. The market is especially strong right now for vans, mini and full size (probably because of the housing crisis and van-life.)

[Locke]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Bring a Trailer commands some stupidly high prices for those types of 80s, 90s and 00 vehicles. I've followed and bid on a few vehicles and it is surprising how often they go for 3 or 4 times what should be reasonable. The market is especially strong right now for vans, mini and full size (probably because of the housing crisis and van-life.)

I remember my Aunt's Van and one time she got a rock chip in the windshield and it was just wild...the windshield on those things was enormous, curved and preposterously expensive...it was insane.

[MRCboicgy]

Those things were bulletproof - I mean literally because of the cladding on the side. My best friend inherited his parents' 91 Transport - and we piled everybody in it back 20 years ago.

Could it go 110 on the Deerfoot? I mean if you started at Memorial and got off at the airport it might have eventually

[Locke]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Those things were bulletproof - I mean literally because of the cladding on the side. My best friend inherited his parents' 91 Transport - and we piled everybody in it back 20 years ago.

Could it go 110 on the Deerfoot? I mean if you started at Memorial and got off at the airport it might have eventually

Reminds me of my old Westfalia Van.

"We're doing 100 on Deerfoot."

Oh! You have the cruise control set?

"No. I have the gas pinned to the floor and this is what we got. This thing weighs as much as a Tank and has the Aerodynamic magnificence of a sack of Bricks and all of the Glory of about 86 Horsepower. This is it."

[Locke]

Maybe if theres a tailwind you might touch 105....

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

In fairness, Nissan owners have had a particularly rough time with trans issues because of that awful CVT.

The only thing that matters is what gear they were in when they left the factory.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Not true at all, and extremely disingenuous, lacking a huge degree of context that is geopolitically / big picture relevant as well.

Your view is simplistic and simply incorrect.

It didn't really do much to refute his statement. In a good discourse sometimes you can concede the point, then move on to a different argument.

I can help with the first half of the sentence "Yes it was the most we've ever exported, but we would like to see more because............"

Then at least we know you are grounded in reality when speaking to you. When the first 4 words are an indefensible lie, it tends to negate the rest of your point.

Originally Posted by Flacker

What came online in 2024 CF?? TMX did, a new pipeline.

If there is a bottleneck and you add capacity, of course it is the most ever exported. Doesn't mean there is free and unlimited export capacity for the resource. Painful, that this even needs explained...

Lots of voices, very little understanding.

Then have the gall to use words like ignorance.

Finally a Trudeau and Notely supporter who appreciated the infrastructure they built.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Those things were bulletproof - I mean literally because of the cladding on the side.

Some designer at Pontiac was totally like "Oh yeah, look at that! It's like a Pontiac Testarossa!"

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by #-3

It didn't really do much to refute his statement. In a good discourse sometimes you can concede the point, then move on to a different argument.

I can help with the first half of the sentence "Yes it was the most we've ever exported, but we would like to see more because............"

Then at least we know you are grounded in reality when speaking to you. When the first 4 words are an indefensible lie, it tends to negate the rest of your point.



Finally a Trudeau and Notely supporter who appreciated the infrastructure they built.

2 things.

One is that I’m not that interested in having a debate about it. I’m really not. Nobody is interested in changing their mind.

Two is that it is not the right framing. As if exporting the most oil ever is the right way to think about it, it isn’t. It doesn’t take into account consideration about a million things and lacks so much context and is so disingenuous it’s kinda tough to even know where to start.

Yes, everyone in oil and gas are whiny. And all they do is whine and they have no point to their whining and they have nothing to complain about and the country has done an amazing job for the industry to make sure it is all working really smoothly and competitively. Got it. You guys win the debate thing, now let’s continue to watch the Canadian economy slide.

[Fuzz]

Abacus is doing a series on the Conservatives before the leadership vote.

https://abacusdata.ca/who-is-in-the-...her-canadians/




I hope he loves the poorly educated as much as Trump does.



No trust in mainstream media or Canadian institutions. Thanks to everyone who helps that one along...





Yes, common sense of your uneducated brain over experts, facts and reality. That's a winning strategy.


The big picture is that we need to work on better education so people believe less bull#### and elect fewer morons.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The big picture is that we need to work on better education so people believe less bull#### and elect fewer morons.

It would actually be interesting to see this voter education breakdown by age because I suspect the larger percentage of high school or less is a result of more seniors voting conservative. Those seniors grew up in a time where post education was not common.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

It would actually be interesting to see this voter education breakdown by age because I suspect the larger percentage of high school or less is a result of more seniors voting conservative. Those seniors grew up in a time where post education was not common.

That narrative is decades old(they died). Seniors vote Liberals now.





https://abacusdata.ca/where-the-cons...ublic-opinion/


It's the youths inundated with social media bull#### that are falling for false narratives because we've failed at educating them properly. And you don't need an advanced education to learn media literacy. Hell, you are proof an advanced education does not confer that.

[Jimmy Stang]

Interestingly, the CPC have the highest support among 18-29 year olds, and it declines as age increases. The LPC are the opposite - highest among older voters, and lower among younger voters.



https://abacusdata.ca/new-year-same-...stay-cautious/

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's the youths inundated with social media bull#### that are falling for false narratives because we've failed at educating them properly.

There's that, to some extent, but it's also that dem youts recognize that they're about to get royally screwed and have a worse life than their parents, and even less chance of prosperity than millenials who had to deal with the GFC and housing prices ballooning. They spent most of their formative years under LPC governments who they would, understandably, blame for not doing enough to reverse this trend, while talking about spending money on other priorities. And the angrier you happen to be about the status quo, the more the CPC - who under PP have clearly established themselves as the party of angry people who think they're getting screwed - might speak to you.

Carney gave a speech yesterday in which he lauded Canada as "the best place in the world to be a regular person". That should, in fact, be the main slogan or mantra of his iteration of the LPC, I think - maybe secondary to "we're the only adults in the room here".

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

There's that, to some extent, but it's also that dem youts recognize that they're about to get royally screwed and have a worse life than their parents, and even less chance of prosperity than millenials who had to deal with the GFC and housing prices ballooning. They spent most of their formative years under LPC governments who they would, understandably, blame for not doing enough to reverse this trend, while talking about spending money on other priorities. And the angrier you happen to be about the status quo, the more the CPC - who under PP have clearly established themselves as the party of angry people who think they're getting screwed - might speak to you.

Carney gave a speech yesterday in which he lauded Canada as "the best place in the world to be a regular person". That should, in fact, be the main slogan or mantra of his iteration of the LPC, I think - maybe secondary to "we're the only adults in the room here".

Not speaking to disenfranchised young men could be the biggest risk any liberal government in any Western nation faces. Kamala ignored them completely.

These are the guys voting based on what Joe Rogan & Jordan Peterson tell them to be angry about.
They do have legitimate problems as they're falling behind on education, earnings, inability to mate, very low social status, massive suicide rates etc..
But the modern conservative movements do a good job at pretending they're looking out for these guys, while completely exploiting them.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Flacker

Doesn't mean there is free and unlimited export capacity for the resource.

Who claimed that it did?