01-23-2026, 07:12 AM
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#25661
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Braden
Not disagreeing if there's attitude problems there, but has there really been any reports about it since the draft ordeal? I could forgive a 18 year old kid for being upset he didn't go 1st after being told by the media for 2 years he would.
He literally just turned 22, all this talk about development not being linear I'm not sure how anyone can confidently say that. He's only what 9 months older then Nate Danielson
Remove a Coleman, Kadri, Whitecloud, and insert young NHL C, that would be giving a him alot of credit if he could single handedly keep us mid.
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Obviously if you trade all the vets, we're surely headed for bottom five. My mediocrity comment was more that we shouldn't be giving up any decent assets for a guy who, let's face it, would surprise everyone if he became a genuine top C.
Is Wright - Reschny - Frost as your best three down the middle, good enough to be competitive a year or two after the new arena opens?
Screams mid to me, unless both Reschny and Wright make really big jumps.
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01-23-2026, 07:48 AM
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#25662
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Franchise Player
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Kakko value is about as close as they’ll get.
Nobody is trading a “good” prospect and a first, let alone a bonafide top 6 winger (younger)
Seattle wants value for where he was drafted, but the reality is they’ll only get value for what he’s turned out to be, which is a borderline bust for the hype he had.
3rd seems about right, maybe toss in a tweener with it.
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01-23-2026, 07:52 AM
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#25663
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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32 Thoughts this morning, Friedman talks about a proposal discussed in NY media, Wright for Lafrenierre. Hems and haws over it but says it isn't the worst idea.
Royle, you bring up Kakko. NYR and Seattle have obviously dealt with each other before, there may be something to this.
But as the co host notes, Laf isn't really that dynamic scorer they're after.
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01-23-2026, 08:03 AM
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#25664
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dammage79
That doesn't address what Seattle are looking for in return for Wright.
Replace Hanley with Sharangovich if you may. A 20g scorer and a couple picks may work.
But I bet they'd ask for Coronato.
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If we can trade Coleman for a 1st, why wouldn't Seattle who can use him not value him as a 1st? The Oilers are in 2nd and pacing for just over 90 points. Home ice is up for grabs in the playoffs and a 2nd round appearance is up for grabs too. They have some young players on the team, and their development is important as well. Playoff experience is important.
If Coleman stays in Seattle after this contract. I could see him staying for a reasonable contract. If not, they can flip him for a 1st in the summer or at the deadline next year. That value shouldn't get ignore just because he is 33 years old.
So right off the bat you are getting a player who is a leader and is coveted by many teams in the deal and has good trade value. He also is someone the Flames don't want to part with as he is a good mentor for young players. Seattle will value this.
If Wright wants a chance elsewhere, I doubt Seattle is giving him away, but Coleman has another year on his deal, so they have time to use him for this year, try and sign him and if not deal him.
The question is who else would Seattle value. Wright is playing center and Frost IMO would be a good sub in for him. Wright is bad on face offs and Frost is very good. Frost would be an ok fit and once again, they can use him this year, see what the contract ask is and if they can't sign him, they could trade him for a pick. My guess is a 2nd.
They can rent 2 players to push for the playoffs and if they want to stay, I doubt either gets a massive raise and if you trade them for a 1st and a 2nd you get a late 1st and a 2nd for Wright after making a push for the playoffs.
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01-23-2026, 08:09 AM
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#25665
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by cam_calderon
Obviously if you trade all the vets, we're surely headed for bottom five. My mediocrity comment was more that we shouldn't be giving up any decent assets for a guy who, let's face it, would surprise everyone if he became a genuine top C.
Is Wright - Reschny - Frost as your best three down the middle, good enough to be competitive a year or two after the new arena opens?
Screams mid to me, unless both Reschny and Wright make really big jumps.
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Yeah, kinda agree with you, I think Reschny is getting a little overhyped, he projects to be a 3rd line centre, IF he can transition to the NHL successfully, with 2nd line potential IF he is even more successful, I know fans, me included are always HOPING for the best, I think we have to bump the brakes alot
But CC is being consistent in stock piling those draft picks, more bullets in the chamber to increase our chances of finding a diamond in the rough.
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01-23-2026, 08:14 AM
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#25666
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Scoring Winger
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Stay away from wright, if Seattle is trading him, there is a reason for it. No short cuts on the rebuild, draft, draft, draft
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01-23-2026, 08:23 AM
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#25668
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_calderon
Is Wright - Reschny - Frost as your best three down the middle, good enough to be competitive a year or two after the new arena opens?
Screams mid to me, unless both Reschny and Wright make really big jumps.
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I don't think you can project a rebuilding team while ignoring the next 3 drafts.
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01-23-2026, 08:26 AM
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#25669
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Overhyped.
What a crazy thing to say for a guy who hasn’t even played a game, who sits in a critical slot in the long term vision of the org.
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It's important to be a little realistic as fans especially during a rebuild. We all gush about these prospects but the reality is that most of them aren't going to make it and those that do very likely in a lesser role than we hoped. Reschny is an exciting prospect but I don't think we should be anointing him as a can't miss prospect. I do think Flames fans may have expectations that he may not be able to meet as to me he looks like a high end 3rd line center in the NHL which is not a bad thing at all and kind of what we should be hoping Honzek could become as well if he can ever stay on the ice.
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01-23-2026, 08:41 AM
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#25670
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Franchise Player
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I watched wright in the oh a few times in the ohl live in his draft year. Not a scout, don’t watch much ohl and just a few games, but man he was bad. Like worst forward on his team each time bad vs the steelheads.
Not surprised about how he’s looked in the nhl thus far and the lack of any real ‘pop’
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01-23-2026, 09:11 AM
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#25671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
It's important to be a little realistic as fans especially during a rebuild. We all gush about these prospects but the reality is that most of them aren't going to make it and those that do very likely in a lesser role than we hoped. Reschny is an exciting prospect but I don't think we should be anointing him as a can't miss prospect. I do think Flames fans may have expectations that he may not be able to meet as to me he looks like a high end 3rd line center in the NHL which is not a bad thing at all and kind of what we should be hoping Honzek could become as well if he can ever stay on the ice.
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Very good point.
Just go back and read the opening pages of Parekh's first game. He was being anointed by many as a can't miss superstar and the majority predicted he'd be a 60 point dman out of the gate. There even posters gushing about his defensive play.
Now Parekh is potentially a very good dman but he has aways to go to get there. He's had a bit of a lost year, but he is still the same prospect he was before. Not better, not worse. Realistically, he was never going to be a star out of the gate. Calgary knew that, based on how they played him and sheltered him. Certainly not time to give up on him, but time to pump the breaks.
And I would say that about pretty much any prospect.
Bedard really took until this year for most to accept he's a special player. Misa hasn't hit the ground running this year, although he is still an elite prospect. But he is not a sure bet. Same for most of the top 2025 draft picks.
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01-23-2026, 09:19 AM
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#25672
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
It's important to be a little realistic as fans especially during a rebuild. We all gush about these prospects but the reality is that most of them aren't going to make it and those that do very likely in a lesser role than we hoped. Reschny is an exciting prospect but I don't think we should be anointing him as a can't miss prospect. I do think Flames fans may have expectations that he may not be able to meet as to me he looks like a high end 3rd line center in the NHL which is not a bad thing at all and kind of what we should be hoping Honzek could become as well if he can ever stay on the ice.
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I think Reschny is a better prospect than Honzek was at this point and 2nd line centre is a fair projection at this point. Honzek regressed offensively in his D+1 year, Reschny has taken a step forward by most accounts. He got significant minutes (including powerplay time) as an 18 year old on the Canada world junior team.
Pretty well any high end 3rd line center is a 2nd line centre for part of their career (i.e. Backlund). I don't think 2nd line center is some out of left field projection.
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01-23-2026, 09:28 AM
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#25673
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#1 Goaltender
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The valuation on Wright by some is terrible based on one bad season.
I wonder if there is a bunch of Kraken fans posting they wouldn't trade a 3rd for Wolf and his .898 save percent and massive contract?
He's worth a look. Late 1sts are often busts too. No draft pick comes without some risk just like Wright might not work out either. He's on his ELC next year so it's not like Seattle signed him to a big contract and want out of it now.
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01-23-2026, 09:28 AM
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#25674
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Reschny easily has second liner potential. And IMO he’s the type who can, with the right wingers, even play on a first line, like Conroy did, or like Zibanejad. Look at Point - what was his projection?
He went from a maybe on Team Canada to being the key guy in key situations at the WJCs.
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01-23-2026, 09:30 AM
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#25675
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Scoring Winger
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Wright would be like a Sam Bennett buy low but even younger. It’s totally worth a dart if they want but barring a package with him for Coleman or a swap with Sharangovich, I doubt we have the established players they are hoping for. So I doubt it happens for us without futures
Now any real trade rumours or movement on Kadri or Coleman?
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01-23-2026, 09:37 AM
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#25676
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Reschny easily has second liner potential. And IMO he’s the type who can, with the right wingers, even play on a first line, like Conroy did, or like Zibanejad. Look at Point - what was his projection?
He went from a maybe on Team Canada to being the key guy in key situations at the WJCs.
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The problem with labeling players as 1st liners is most people want 100-point guys on the 1st line.
Bergeron IMO was a high-end 1st liner who never got credit for that until he was around 30 because he rarely put up big points.
You need high end skill to score, but if your center is elite 2 way and is a 60-to-70-point player. IMO that is still maybe tier 2 for #1 centers.
The other factor is how many very good players are labeled 2nd liners and really would be the 3rd best forward on almost all teams in the league?
Kadri is often said to be 2nd line. Yet he might be the 3rd best forward on almost every team in the league. Tampa? Dallas? Vegas? Toronto? Maybe 4 teams that would have 3 better forwards. Does this not make Kadri a 1st liner and IMO Reschny has Kadri potential or better.
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01-23-2026, 09:40 AM
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#25677
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Reschny easily has second liner potential. And IMO he’s the type who can, with the right wingers, even play on a first line, like Conroy did, or like Zibanejad. Look at Point - what was his projection?
He went from a maybe on Team Canada to being the key guy in key situations at the WJCs.
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Yes, he definitely has second line potential. But it's just potential, not a sure thing. But his D+1 year has been very encouraging.
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01-23-2026, 09:42 AM
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#25678
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I watched wright in the oh a few times in the ohl live in his draft year. Not a scout, don’t watch much ohl and just a few games, but man he was bad. Like worst forward on his team each time bad vs the steelheads.
Not surprised about how he’s looked in the nhl thus far and the lack of any real ‘pop’
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I watched him multiple times as well, had the same opinion. Had no idea how he was ranked so high
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01-23-2026, 10:09 AM
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#25679
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Yes, he definitely has second line potential. But it's just potential, not a sure thing. But his D+1 year has been very encouraging.
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Why doesn't he have 1st line potential?
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01-23-2026, 10:25 AM
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#25680
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
It's important to be a little realistic as fans especially during a rebuild.
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No it isn’t.
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Certainly not time to give up on him, but time to pump the breaks.
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No it’s not.
People can temper their expectations if they want to, but prescribing that is completely silly. 99% of the people here including the three of us know FA about how good players could actually become. No sense is pretending under the guise of “realism.”
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