01-22-2026, 03:33 PM
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#25561
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Zach Hyman as a UFA? They've got McDavid and Draisaitl to re-sign multiple times when they could have left.
Doing better in that regard then the Flames when it came to Gaudreau and Tkachuk
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Kadri signed since Hyman.
But I'm not really disagreeing ... but Edmonton hasn't exactly had their pick of the litter despite two great players and some success.
market is market.
But market plus ######ry probably isn't the best plan.
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01-22-2026, 03:34 PM
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#25562
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Kadri signed since Hyman.
But I'm not really disagreeing ... but Edmonton hasn't exactly had their pick of the litter despite two great players and some success.
market is market.
But market plus ######ry probably isn't the best plan.
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Oilers have also largely been capped out in the McDavid / Draisaitl era and haven't really been creative in trying to open up space to attract that top talent the way other teams do.
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01-22-2026, 03:36 PM
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#25563
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Oilers have also largely been capped out in the McDavid / Draisaitl era and haven't really been creative in trying to open up space to attract that top talent the way other teams do.
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They have, just not successfully.
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01-22-2026, 03:38 PM
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#25564
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Franchise Player
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When McDavid leaves...he will, he signed a 2 year deal the Oilers will be back to their old nobody wanting to play there selves. Considering two cup runs, new arena, and McDavid the best they can do for FAs is Mangiapane? Skinner? lol
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01-22-2026, 03:38 PM
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#25565
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Oilers have also largely been capped out in the McDavid / Draisaitl era and haven't really been creative in trying to open up space to attract that top talent the way other teams do.
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The Oilers have been creative in opening up space. They've just been even more creative in wasting it on the kind of contracts they gave to Nurse and Frederic.
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—Ethan Wyttenbach
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01-22-2026, 03:38 PM
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#25566
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Zambia
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Originally Posted by NewFan
Laine for Huberdeau. Who says no?
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I'd do a mirror of Lucic for Neal deal...
Huberdeau for Nurse.
Hahahaha
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01-22-2026, 03:39 PM
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#25567
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Scoring Winger
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Huberdeau (50% retained) for Trent Frederic.
Rehash of the Neal/Lucic deal.
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01-22-2026, 03:40 PM
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#25568
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by musth
well, itd have to be well retained haha, and not 1 for 1 obvs. i mean, were not the oilers and seattle isnt the devils.
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You could retain 50% and I doubt anyone bites.
Plus, Huberdeau is the opposite of what they are looking for.
Huberdeau’s problems are much deeper than a system problem. He’s also now fighting his age creeping up on him.
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01-22-2026, 03:42 PM
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#25569
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musth
I'd do a mirror of Lucic for Neal deal...
Huberdeau for Nurse.
Hahahaha
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Unfortunately, Huberdeau has been so bad this year, Nurse is a much better player. Plus, I doubt the Oilers consider him bad.
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01-22-2026, 03:48 PM
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#25570
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander
Huberdeau (50% retained) for Trent Frederic.
Rehash of the Neal/Lucic deal.
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That would be the worst trade in Flames history.
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01-22-2026, 03:51 PM
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#25571
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
That would be the worst trade in Flames history.
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Also, correct me if I am wrong, if Huberdeau gets bought out it impacts Calgary as well with no input on the decision. Huge risk
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01-22-2026, 03:52 PM
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#25572
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander
Huberdeau (50% retained) for Trent Frederic.
Rehash of the Neal/Lucic deal.
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Huberdeau would probably flourish in a system that isn't dump and chase.
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01-22-2026, 04:09 PM
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#25573
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Laine on the block, again. I wonder if there's a way to 3 way and send Coleman to Montreal, Laine to Seattle, and Wright to us.
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01-22-2026, 04:10 PM
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#25574
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Laine on the block, again. I wonder if there's a way to 3 way and send Coleman to Montreal, Laine to Seattle, and Wright to us.
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In what world does Seattle sell that low on Wright?
They're not looking to get rid of him, he's asking to move. If he does go it's going to be a heavy price that is a lot more than a Laine or Coleman.
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01-22-2026, 04:10 PM
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#25575
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Laine on the block, again. I wonder if there's a way to 3 way and send Coleman to Montreal, Laine to Seattle, and Wright to us.
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I don’t think Laine has any value…
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01-22-2026, 04:13 PM
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#25576
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Apparently there's an piece in the Toronto Star suggesting Matthews could want out if the Leafs miss the playoffs. Paywall so haven't read it myself.
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01-22-2026, 04:15 PM
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#25577
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Ped
Apparently there's an piece in the Toronto Star suggesting Matthews could want out if the Leafs miss the playoffs. Paywall so haven't read it myself.
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Team captain experiences one bad year and demands out while playing a key role in the team's lack of success?
That tracks for Toronto, but I suspect that's sensationalist speculation from a rag like the Star.
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01-22-2026, 04:39 PM
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#25578
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
You could retain 50% and I doubt anyone bites.
Plus, Huberdeau is the opposite of what they are looking for.
Huberdeau’s problems are much deeper than a system problem. He’s also now fighting his age creeping up on him.
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That's the thing. When he signed that contract, most people were resigned to the fact that we would hopefully get a few good years at the beginning, but the second half probably wouldn't be great. Not only is the first half sucking, but that second half that was always probably going to be bad value is coming up soon. Rebounding for him at this time probably means 60 points tops.
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01-22-2026, 04:43 PM
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#25579
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
That's the thing. When he signed that contract, most people were resigned to the fact that we would hopefully get a few good years at the beginning, but the second half probably wouldn't be great. Not only is the first half sucking, but that second half that was always probably going to be bad value is coming up soon. Rebounding for him at this time probably means 60 points tops.
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Maybe we all got it wrong and it will be the reverse? Bad in the first half, great in the second.
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"The first thing that goes when you lose your hands, are your fine motor skills."
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01-22-2026, 04:48 PM
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#25580
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Out of the Athletic .. annual player poll piece they do.
You are certainly listing the first and biggest factor for sure. Manitoba can't beat Nevada for market or taxes.
But what if you are talking to 5 teams ... none in the NHL's ten most desirable locations and you need to break a tie?
"Scratch the one that humiliated Huberdeau!"
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I don’t believe that would be a top 5 factor at all, I’m sure players can look at his performance and think “meh, he had it coming to him” to some extent. When you have at most 31 companies to work for and <5 who want your skillset / have room for you, there’s a short list of things you care about. Money, facilities, family’s wishes, city to do’s, other friends and family, other teammates and a bunch of other things rank above being mean to the NHL leader in full season points drop.
Who’s to say Conroy will even be GM by the time the flames are competitive again? In which case your point loses some value.
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